MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[ZaddyZonar]

Just tested a vail of Primal Test Cyp 250 from P10 (purchased early-September).

A few weeks back there seemed to be some confusion and discussion about which batches of test were which, as well as some mislabeled batches. I checked in with Primal who reassured me it was the batch that tested at 243mg/ml. I was frankly still feeling a bit uneasy, so I sent in a vial to verify for myself.

Test result showed a concentration of 221mg/ml, 10% less than the posted COA. While the results aren’t alarming, they are nevertheless disappointing, and have me questioning what the concentration of my remaining 3 vials are.

Hopefully, this is helpful for anyone else out there using Test Cyp 250 [P10], as you may be under-dosing slightly.

@Primal_Pharma - What is the process for getting refunded for the testing and vial? Would also appreciate your thoughts on my remaining vials and your testing process in general. How does this much variance occur Do I assume they are all 220mg?

Janoshik Analytical

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Not the first time blind tests came back poor with out of range variances, shocker

But hey, they won’t do it again “apes!”

 

[readalot]

Just tested a vail of Primal Test Cyp 250 from P10 (purchased early-September).

A few weeks back there seemed to be some confusion and discussion about which batches of test were which, as well as some mislabeled batches. I checked in with Primal who reassured me it was the batch that tested at 243mg/ml. I was frankly still feeling a bit uneasy, so I sent in a vial to verify for myself.

Test result showed a concentration of 221mg/ml, 10% less than the posted COA. While the results aren’t alarming, they are nevertheless disappointing, and have me questioning what the concentration of my remaining 3 vials are.

Hopefully, this is helpful for anyone else out there using Test Cyp 250 [P10], as you may be under-dosing slightly.

@Primal_Pharma - What is the process for getting refunded for the testing and vial? Would also appreciate your thoughts on my remaining vials and your testing process in general. How does this much variance occur Do I assume they are all 220mg?

Janoshik Analytical

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That volumetric flask looking pretty good right about now.

Thanks for the testing.

 

[readalot]

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MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Oct 31, 2025

As an aside, it’s definitely worth asking sources to prove they have such a large media bottle if claimed, because they’re not cheap (relative to the more typical 1L or 2L), pushing $240 at MedLabSupply:

5 Liters, Hybex Glass Media Bottle, Blue, Qty. 1

Lets get after it!! She's got it going on.


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[SwolieGuacamole]

Just tested a vail of Primal Test Cyp 250 from P10 (purchased early-September).

A few weeks back there seemed to be some confusion and discussion about which batches of test were which, as well as some mislabeled batches. I checked in with Primal who reassured me it was the batch that tested at 243mg/ml. I was frankly still feeling a bit uneasy, so I sent in a vial to verify for myself.

Test result showed a concentration of 221mg/ml, 10% less than the posted COA. While the results aren’t alarming, they are nevertheless disappointing, and have me questioning what the concentration of my remaining 3 vials are.

Hopefully, this is helpful for anyone else out there using Test Cyp 250 [P10], as you may be under-dosing slightly.

@Primal_Pharma - What is the process for getting refunded for the testing and vial? Would also appreciate your thoughts on my remaining vials and your testing process in general. How does this much variance occur Do I assume they are all 220mg?

Janoshik Analytical

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This is the exact batch that I kept referencing. This is what I have. This is the batch that he kept ignoring.

Good to see we have 220 test lol

 

[readalot]

This is the exact batch that I kept referencing. This is what I have. This is the batch that he kept ignoring.

Good to see I have 220 test lol

Help improve and educate the vendors. Appreciate your continued efforts.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Just tested a vail of Primal Test Cyp 250 from P10 (purchased early-September).

A few weeks back there seemed to be some confusion and discussion about which batches of test were which, as well as some mislabeled batches. I checked in with Primal who reassured me it was the batch that tested at 243mg/ml. I was frankly still feeling a bit uneasy, so I sent in a vial to verify for myself.

Test result showed a concentration of 221mg/ml, 10% less than the posted COA. While the results aren’t alarming, they are nevertheless disappointing, and have me questioning what the concentration of my remaining 3 vials are.

Hopefully, this is helpful for anyone else out there using Test Cyp 250 [P10], as you may be under-dosing slightly.

@Primal_Pharma - What is the process for getting refunded for the testing and vial? Would also appreciate your thoughts on my remaining vials and your testing process in general. How does this much variance occur Do I assume they are all 220mg?

Janoshik Analytical

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Thank you for this. Responded and will make sure you're reimbursed in full + your time.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

I’ve never seen so much testing variance from a source in my life. 1-2% = standard. Everything here has been 10-50%. I’d rather CN resell at this point lol.

 

[readalot]

I’d rather CN resell at this point lol.

Nooooo.

Door #3. Support US domestic done right.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Nooooo.

Door #3. Support US domestic done right.

We ain’t right lol.


But hold on…..










BLACK FRIDAY SALE APES!!!!!!

AND WE’VE JUST ADDED ROIDTEST KITS TO OUR SITE SO YOU CAN TEST RIGHT AT HOME. NO NEED FOR JANO.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Tren E300 -> 298.60mg/mL

Tren Ace 200 -> 197.43mg/mL

Deca 300 -> 275.91mg/mL

Test P Raw -> 95.43%

 

[readalot]

We ain’t right

You got me there.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

Tren E300 -> 298.60mg/mL

Tren Ace 200 -> 197.43mg/mL

Deca 300 -> 275.91mg/mL

Test P Raw -> 95.43%

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GCMS on the primo? I know you said you’re ignoring ones who didn’t purchase said product. I’ve got buddies who ordered your primo and are waiting to see your results.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

GCMS on the primo? I know you said you’re ignoring ones who didn’t purchase said product. I’ve got buddies who ordered your primo and are waiting to see your results.

Will post when I get it

 

[ZaddyZonar]

Will post when I get it

Nice, looking forward to it

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Will post when I get it

Did he say he can do it? Thought the question was asking him if there was enough oil left to test.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

We ain’t right lol.


But hold on…..










BLACK FRIDAY SALE APES!!!!!!

AND WE’VE JUST ADDED ROIDTEST KITS TO OUR SITE SO YOU CAN TEST RIGHT AT HOME. NO NEED FOR JANO.

Acting as if variances don’t happen in any UGL, or as if other major sources haven’t made far bigger mistakes, isn’t realistic. We’ve actually pushed the space forward by being transparent, testing raws and finished products, and encouraging people to look at their gear the right way.

A small group online always tries to bury sources, but it never reflects the actual customer base. We continue to sell out and grow because the majority knows the quality and the effort behind what we do. At the end of the day, it should be viewed as a learning opportunity to keep improving, not something to sensationalize.

 

[The Answ3r]

While everything is melting down in here, quick update: Primal’s var is actually hitting pretty damn well. Week three now and the pump is juicy, veins are out, and strength is creeping up. No complaints there.

As for the oils: Test, Mast, Tren, Deca, NPP - they’re all still sitting unopened like decorations on my shelf. So I can’t say much about the oil yet, but the oral is doing its job for sure.

 

[Photon]

Acting as if variances don’t happen in any UGL, or as if other major sources haven’t made far bigger mistakes, isn’t realistic.

Nobody is expecting perfection.
All vendors make mistakes.

Why the large variances and what is being done to improve it?

You keep saying your process is solid, what should the expectation be when purchasing your gear?

 

[just some dude]

it’s crazy how the people genuinely struggling financially can work so hard and feel so stuck, but the rich people are like eh fuck these people and just give less and less energy to them. sad

 

[crispybacon!]

Thank you for this. Responded and will make sure you're reimbursed in full + your time.

Received $200 transfer, so kudos for the quick turnaround. This mostly covers the cost of testing, shipping, and a vial. I assume my time was valued at about negative $5.00.

I’m only putting this here because I don’t want there to be an impression of goodwill when there wasn’t. I got roughly what I paid and nothing more.

I’m gonna write off the other 3 vials, as I don’t want to go through the hassle of additional testing.

And this concludes my relationship with @Primal_Pharma.

EDIT: Adding for transparency - Received another $40 transfer a minute go.