Ateam2023
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Well, the good news is you can't inject too much Mast,,, Ever
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Whistles77
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Started a thread here. Seems this topic isn't unique to primal and deserves not to get lost and insights scattered across source threads.
Easy To Operate Peroxide Value Test Strips Testing For Peroxide In Cooking Oil - Buy Cooking Oil Test Kit peroxide Value Test Kit Product on Alibaba.com
Easy To Operate Peroxide Value Test Strips Testing For Peroxide In Cooking Oil - Buy Cooking Oil Test Kit peroxide Value Test Kit Product on Alibaba.comwww.alibaba.com
https://www.medallionlabs.com/tests/peroxide-value/
Would have to ensure that other organics in the matrix do not interfere. Otherwise create a baseline with known high purity carrier oil.
So not sure how useful strips would be with gear.
Fyi.
Educational for international cheap gear. Wouldn't waste my time for domestic labs using the good MCT/Mig 812. You can look up peroxide value and other specs on the manufacturer COA for that carrier oil.
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Grimnir
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You got acne because you're injecting hormones into your body. It's literally one of the biggest symptoms. Did you think you were immune or something? Of course you are. You're a special little snowflake. You're dismissed.
AllGoodThings
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He said throwing in this gear so perhaps he was already taking the same doses of another sources gear without issue, and replacing it with Primal gear caused him to get acne he didn't have beforehand. I know I can run over 2 grams of gear/week, and over 1g test without getting a single zit. I've been that way through 2 decades of gear use, and I definitely would be suspicious if I switched sources and suddenly started getting acne, or other sides I don't typically get.
Ghoul
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I wouldn’t call these strips exactly “lab analysis grade” testing, but it should be a decent way to identify high levels of peroxide by the end user.
The lab grade kits are a few hundred, and to meet the standards of a chem analysis lab like Jano a process has to be developed and validated. Still seems relatively basic compared to what he usually does.
This is tangentially related, but in a presentation by the US Pharmacopeia organization to manufacturers of Polysorbate 80 as a drug excipient in China, they explain the standard for “Pharma” grade is not good enough to meet the much higher “For injection” standard.
PS80 contains Oleic Acid (and other fatty acids). Oleic acid is also found in MCT that’s not perfectly purified.
The TLDR is that when fatty acids oxidize, forming peroxide, not only is the peroxide bad to inject, it reacts with other substances leading to other impurities developing in the injectable, especially when exposed to light.
So the “For Injection” standard really means Peroxide should be below measurable limits.
The “Well standard” bars on the right is a poor translation of “For Injection”. See how much lower peroxide is vs “Pharma” grade?
Here’s a numerical measure of how
peroxide level correlates with impurities that form.
Again, the “Well” (in all Chinese characters, highlighted in yellow at the bottom of the list) is the low peroxide “For Injection” version of this excipient. Impurities are far lower when peroxide is low.
Interestingly, though this doesn’t apply precisely to our situation, the impurities formed when the higher peroxide PS80 “pharma grade” excipient is used turns the injectable yellow, vs the almost unmeasurable peroxide type “for Injection” , which stays clear.
We also get “mystery yellowing”, unexplained in some batches of AAS.
TLDR: The presence of peroxides in injectables is not only a source of PIP and systemic inflammation, it’s a reactant that degrades other compounds, creating new impurities.
Anyway, thanks for attending another in my Ted Talk Series:
“Losing Your Peace of Mind One Ghoul Post at a Time.”
The lab grade kits are a few hundred, and to meet the standards of a chem analysis lab like Jano a process has to be developed and validated. Still seems relatively basic compared to what he usually does.
This is tangentially related, but in a presentation by the US Pharmacopeia organization to manufacturers of Polysorbate 80 as a drug excipient in China, they explain the standard for “Pharma” grade is not good enough to meet the much higher “For injection” standard.
PS80 contains Oleic Acid (and other fatty acids). Oleic acid is also found in MCT that’s not perfectly purified.
The TLDR is that when fatty acids oxidize, forming peroxide, not only is the peroxide bad to inject, it reacts with other substances leading to other impurities developing in the injectable, especially when exposed to light.
So the “For Injection” standard really means Peroxide should be below measurable limits.
The “Well standard” bars on the right is a poor translation of “For Injection”. See how much lower peroxide is vs “Pharma” grade?
Here’s a numerical measure of how
peroxide level correlates with impurities that form.
Again, the “Well” (in all Chinese characters, highlighted in yellow at the bottom of the list) is the low peroxide “For Injection” version of this excipient. Impurities are far lower when peroxide is low.
Interestingly, though this doesn’t apply precisely to our situation, the impurities formed when the higher peroxide PS80 “pharma grade” excipient is used turns the injectable yellow, vs the almost unmeasurable peroxide type “for Injection” , which stays clear.
We also get “mystery yellowing”, unexplained in some batches of AAS.
TLDR: The presence of peroxides in injectables is not only a source of PIP and systemic inflammation, it’s a reactant that degrades other compounds, creating new impurities.
Anyway, thanks for attending another in my Ted Talk Series:
“Losing Your Peace of Mind One Ghoul Post at a Time.”
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explodingHeart
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I bought those chinese test strips you linked earlier, tried it on QSC deca that turned brown, but it showed no oxidation. Did I do something wrong?
Ghoul
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I’d start by making sure the strips work.
Check household cooking oil (Flaxseed and Sunflower are the most easily oxidized).
Or, buy boiled linseed oil from any hardware store (it’s cheap) ~$5, It’ll have more than enough peroxide to show in any functioning oil peroxide test.
Any idea on caber restock timeline @Primal_Pharma ?
youngsak10
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@Primal_Pharma when is the Black Friday sale dropping
Jtlittle88
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I never got an email that my order confirmed. Did @Primal_Pharma atop sending those?
My last order a few weeks ago I received the confirmation email
I like it. Push hard for improvements, then challenge the new breed of vendors doing things right to raise prices.
Enough of the begging. Pay for quality. We gotta quit racing to the bottom if we want better stuff.
Grimnir
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Just got my pack today. Anadrol and test prop. A very small order but it got here in 4 days. I received confirmation the day I ordered tracking the next day. It drew up slow leading me to believe it was pretty thick but I orgot I switched to 25 gauge tips. I'll post about their efficacy in a week or two or whenever I start seeing results. Thanks @Primal_Pharma I'll be back for that mast E when it's in stock granted I get results over the coming weeks. With anadrol it shouldn't take very long.
Earthworm Jim
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I've been experiencing a problem for the last couple months where it's like my whiskers are much firmer than they used to be and they scratch my face to the point of causing a rash. I had to shave my beard. Usually leave in conditioner keeps the whiskers silky smooth so my face doesn't get irritated. Now, even three days of stubble is causing itch all over my face. I was thinking maybe this has to do with masteron. I'll be done taking it in about three days and don't plan on getting moreWell, the good news is you can't inject too much Mast,,, Ever
Just out of ignorance how would the masteron affect the beard growth?
Earthworm Jim
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I don't have the first clue. I'm just hoping the mast caused it. People talk about getting dinosaur skin from it and todd lee looks pretty haggard so that's why I thought maybe it was the cause
Mrhairyman
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@Primal_Pharma
Offer store credit for Jano testing ?
Offer store credit for Jano testing ?
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