MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[Oldhand]

We take care of our clients, and that’s always been the priority. A lot of our actual customers have asked me to stop going back and forth with the same non stop complaint crowd because it never goes anywhere and they’re never going to be satisfied no matter what gets posted.

We’re going to keep doing business as usual, keep testing, keep improving every single day, and keep supporting the people who actually run our products. The fact that we’re staying busy and inventory keeps moving tells me we’re doing something right. Are we perfect? Nobody is. But we strive to be, and we improve every day!

It’s good gear and good customer support. I’ve noticed the brand is constantly trying to improve too, which is hard to find time for with the volume being moved.

I’ve probably made close to 15 orders and have never been shorted. All the gear I’ve used yielded results. As long as consistent testing continues, consistent quality will follow.

 

[BlackVeil]

A lot of our actual customers have asked me to stop going back and forth with the same non stop complaint crowd because it never goes anywhere and they’re never going to be satisfied no matter what gets posted.

lol just lol.

Bottom tier sources will always be bottom tier.

 

[newguy2]

We take care of our clients, and that’s always been the priority. A lot of our actual customers have asked me to stop going back and forth with the same non stop complaint crowd because it never goes anywhere and they’re never going to be satisfied no matter what gets posted.

We’re going to keep doing business as usual, keep testing, keep improving every single day, and keep supporting the people who actually run our products. The fact that we’re staying busy and inventory keeps moving tells me we’re doing something right. Are we perfect? Nobody is. But we strive to be, and we improve every day!

I run your products. Just finished a cycle that was Primal and running TRT on the same gear.

But I also hope to see you stick to your word. The posts recently have simply been trying to hold you accountable to your own words. And honestly some of the responses you've given don't instill a lot of hope that what you say is actually the truth.

Would love to see that corrected, I'm a thankful customer, but there is a trend that is concerning.

 

[Poppindemthangz]

But damn 8mg of Reta a week!? My ass had to cut down to 2 a week because of lack of hunger.

 

[dcfreak]

But damn 8mg of Reta a week!? My ass had to cut down to 2 a week because of lack of hunger.

Lack of hunger was sort of the plan.

The cut was fairly aggressive

 

[Poppindemthangz]

lol just lol.

Bottom tier sources will always be bottom tier.

Compared to what we had 10-15 years ago…..I’m happy. Even the bottom tier shit at least works without crazy infections. To each their own. This is not bottom to me.

 

[BlackVeil]

This is not bottom to me.

I feel sorry for you.

 

[Photon]

We already have finished brew HPLC on EQ 300 mg/ml in MCT (see below). Switching from MCT to GSO doesn’t change the actual compound or the dosing, it’s the same EQ and the same concentration either way. The only difference between the two versions is the carrier oil, which affects viscosity and injection feel, not the identity or strength of the hormone itself.

No change in compound and dosing indeed.

At this point you might as well use the same Jano oil test for every single batch going forward.

 

[Raiders789]

But damn 8mg of Reta a week!? My ass had to cut down to 2 a week because of lack of hunger.

Ngl this is kinda crazy to me because I'm on 21mg/week and can easily get 4000cals down. Thats why I love reta so much, food still tastes good even on 21mg/week eating 4000+ cals but could also easily drop carbs to get to 2500cals on low days and still feel satisfied.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

No change in compound and dosing indeed.

At this point you might as well use the same Jano oil test for every single batch going forward.

I get what you’re trying to do there, but that comparison doesn’t land.

Nobody’s saying one Jano test covers every batch forever. We test when something that actually affects the result changes. a new raw lot or supplier, a different target concentration, a new process, etc. That’s why you’ve seen repeat HPLC across runs.

What I said is just basic reality. Switching the carrier from MCT to GSO doesn’t change EQ. The oil changes thickness and injection feel, not the identity or strength of the hormone. So the MCT HPLC is still valid for the dosing question. Pretending that means “same test for every batch going forward” is you trying to spin a point that wasn’t made

 

[Dial It In]

No change in compound and dosing indeed.

At this point you might as well use the same Jano oil test for every single batch going forward.

I’m not a brewer or I’d do this shit myself. But….. don’t calculations have to be different when you use gso vs MCT when brewing? Pretty sure a source made this mistake not long ago and it was severely under dosed

 

[ZaddyZonar]

Nobody’s saying one Jano test covers every batch forever. We test when something that actually affects the result changes. a new raw lot or supplier, a different target concentration, a new process, etc. That’s why you’ve seen repeat HPLC across runs.

Except the recent primo you paid a lot of money for and was super excited for it to land. Oh wait you found it set aside a week ago, but sent out a vial for testing at the beginning of the month.

I imagine Jano will be getting back to you tonight or tomorrow for that GCMS testing yeah?

Way too many discrepancies

 

[AlexDavis43]

A lot of our actual customers have asked me to stop going back and forth with the same non stop complaint crowd because it never goes anywhere and they’re never going to be satisfied no matter what gets posted.

it's true tho, and they aren't even potential customers

 

[Primal_Pharma]

I’m not a brewer or I’d do this shit myself. But….. don’t calculations have to be different when you use gso vs MCT when brewing? Pretty sure a source made this mistake not long ago and it was severely under dosed

No, that’s not how it works. The mg/mL doesn’t change just because you switch oils. You still weigh the same amount of raw and bring it up to the same final volume. What does change is thickness and how easily something holds, not the actual dosing math.

If a source ended up under-dosed after switching oils, that’s on their process, bad measuring, bad filtering, or losing volume, not because GSO somehow needs different calculations.

 

[Photon]

I’m not a brewer or I’d do this shit myself. But….. don’t calculations have to be different when you use gso vs MCT when brewing? Pretty sure a source made this mistake not long ago and it was severely under dosed

Yes.
Happened to one of the oldest sources on this board recently.
Just a simple switch from GSO to MCT.

They added the wrong amount of API.

Edit:
What Primal says is however true.
There is no difference in the amount of API needed between different oils.

 

[BlackVeil]

Yes.
Happened to one of the oldest sources on this board recently.
Just a simple switch from GSO to MCT.

They added the wrong amount of API.

Iirc if its who I think, his GSO was dosed at 200mg instead of the 250mg mct calculations, no?
So he used gso calculations on the mct.

Unless Im misremembering.

 

[Photon]

Iirc if its who I think, his GSO was dosed at 200mg instead of the 250mg mct calculations, no?
So he used gso calculations on the mct.

Unless Im misremembering.

Indeed.
A calculation error.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Yes.
Happened to one of the oldest sources on this board recently.
Just a simple switch from GSO to MCT.

They added the wrong amount of API.

Edit:
What Primal says is however true.
There is no difference in the amount of API needed between different oils.

Iirc if its who I think, his GSO was dosed at 200mg instead of the 250mg mct calculations, no?
So he used gso calculations on the mct.

Unless Im misremembering.

@AlexDavis43
This is exactly why I don’t go back-and-forth nonstop anymore. People will scrutinize every move we make, but then turn around and say stuff like “you need different calculations for MCT vs GSO,” which just isn’t how any of this works.

Then edit their comments once they realize they’re wrong. Waste of time considering we have no problem moving product. The Apes love it and we will continue to get better every day

 

[Photon]

@AlexDavis43
This is exactly why I don’t go back-and-forth nonstop anymore. People will scrutinize every move we make, but then turn around and say stuff like “you need different calculations for MCT vs GSO,” which just isn’t how any of this works.

Then edit their comments once they realize they’re wrong. Waste of time considering we have no problem moving product. The Apes love it and we will continue to get better every day

I never said different calculations are required.
What i have doubts in, is your process.

Your 3rd party testing does not inspire much confidence.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Except the recent primo you paid a lot of money for and was super excited for it to land. Oh wait you found it set aside a week ago, but sent out a vial for testing at the beginning of the month.

I imagine Jano will be getting back to you tonight or tomorrow for that GCMS testing yeah?

Way too many discrepancies

GCMS testing? Is this something specific for the primo you're talking about?

or just general curiosity/fishing