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HYB (Best Service and Product - International Shipping)
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Ghoul
Member
The most important thing is to see how this is handled and what changes there will be going forward. After going silent for a minute (the information vacuum only makes things much worse) I think yura is facing the music and handling it properly now.
None of this should be allowed to be swept under the rug like it never happened.
There’s also no value in exaggerating the issues.
Like it or not, sooner or later, every UGL vendor, without exception, has some fuckup.
So far I see issues isolated to a supplier that crashed and burned. Undosed* GH, and a different GLP or grossly overdosed R10.
QSC reborn
is even pushing untested batches out, but discloses the fact and sells at a discount until results come in. That seems reasonable to me. A buyer can choose to wait or not. Clear disclosure a batch is untested, and a lower price for those who are willing to accept the risk.
What’s not acceptable is being sold one product, which you can safely assume was chosen by the customer looking at testing and/or user feedback, and having it swapped for another, without giving the buyer a choice.
keepbashing
New Member
Nice. Maximum harm reduction!
RoidyNoob
Member
right, and seems pretty obvious you've got nothing to gain from all this. Anyhow HYB is not directly to be blamed (obviously), its the chemist shitbag, however HYB should be testing monthly their batches. Ive ordered twice from these guys wanting to build a relation with them for a reseller in the EU wanting to buy about 5k worth monthly but now Im backing away. Sucks. At least theyre compensating you guys in the meantime. Good thing you started this. Might trigger more seriousness on their behalf.
BP_6
Member
Just 100% fillers? Haven't seen that in a while. That is like what you would do if you were running a study and needed a placebo. I don't see how that would happen at the manufacture level in the current era even in the UG market. Unless it was intentional or a major fuck up.
That all being said, it was likely the manufacturer that HYB bought it from vs HYB themselves. HYB though still is the one that sold it so they have to take full responsibility for the problem.
The reta making people sick though is a much worse thing. I can tell you that taking too much of a GLP-1 of any type before you have adjusted is absolutely awful. The symptoms described are what you would expect. It basically feels like a horrible case of food poisoning, almost like you are dying.
CharlesV
Member
the way this picked up steam, they have to face it head on.
it’ll be interesting to see if the trash peptides are limited to just the GH and Reta mentioned recently. their CN shipping is so slow, there are 3-4 weeks worth of other shipments from that lab out there waiting to land.
…i should say, “so slow” compared to other 3 letter CN labs in recent years.
Ghoul
Member
It also started to spin in some unhelpful directions, like turning what I’m confident is “wrong / overdosed” product in a vial into a “endotoxin poisoning scandal”. And if you’ve been here long enough, you know I’m a filtering crusader in part because I believe we’re being chronically exposed to excess endotoxin (and bacteria), at levels that don’t induce obvious symptoms, and the harms those can cause over the long term are unappreciated.
When QSC fell, SSA, a distant 2nd at that time, had some pretty crappy practices, poor pricing, QA, communication and shipping, and got even worse when they were flooded with tons business all of a sudden.
With sharp feedback from this community, they got much better within a few months. It wasn’t even clear who would become the “new QSC” with a few contenders at the time. SSA succeeded.
I see the same problems at HYB/WWV/GGB happening after SSAs customers rushed to them.
We’ll have to see which of them listens to us and responds in the right way. I don’t think all 3 will, and only one is likely to wake up, improve, rise above the others, and be rewarded as the new “QSC/SSA” #1 default most business gravitates to.
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CharlesV
Member
indeed. it’s a good fight.
agreed. after SSA’s 9/11, there was no doubt HYB got completed overwhelmed with orders. not going to absolve them of guilt, but i could see them cutting corners to take advantage of their opportunity.
hopefully they’ll step it up a little. i know a big chunk of their business is the STG soccer mom community, who’ll just move on to the next source on their spreadsheet.
Ghoul
Member
Just remember it’s all Chinese. Domestic GH just gives a little reassurance it’s probably been tested. But since that’s no guarantee of what you’ve got in hand, you’d probably come out ahead vs the domestic seller premium by ordering a few kits from a Chinese vendor, or going in with a buddy or two, and getting it tested yourself tbh.
madcap71
Member
Test reports for every batch should be the norm now after this. Not hopeful it will be but I would not buy anything from a source that can't provide testing now
Jpxxx
Member
In canada there's a few trusted resellers that test every batch and id 100% rather pay more for it than untested, untrusted Chinese source that doesn't offer reship either
Ghoul
Member
Yeah no reship is no bueno period.
Thats true, ive got some trusted sources who do a lot of testing
Exactly. Something like this (getting sick from a product) will absolutely 100% ruin your reputation (as it should). You could make the best oils, have the best HGH and someone getting sick from a GLP-1 you hooked them up with will undo everything.
I know that testing is the key, and this may seem like a dumb question, but has anyone had an adverse reaction to the Tirzepatide 10 and 15 mg kits? I am going to personally sample mine, but have not had the chance yet, and would like to hear from anyone who has.
aromatizer
New Member
nice of you not to bother testing your shit till someone ends up in hospital.
I am sorry, but if you need to filter a finished product it should never have been on the market in the first place.
aromatizer
New Member
chicom roulette baby!
Ghoul
Member
How do you decide something UGL sourced is safe to inject?
Simple. Jano reports, meso member feedback. If reports are off and people are claiming that a product is cloudy or causes other problems.
Although it is after the fact, I also test it myself before I let any out of my hands.
