mavalencia
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Saw a video of Kurt havens calling test C a “trash” ester. I’ve only ever used enanthate. Anyone notice a “difference” between the 2? I.E. bloods,quality of life, physique changes?
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Test E vs Test C
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HeatherSwanson
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Test E gives a shit ton of pip, makes me feel like I have the flu, red lumps sometimes, lethargy.
Test C 250mg week + Heather Swanson = 12% BF year round (dexa scan says so) at 5'10" 210lbs
Test C 250mg week + Heather Swanson = 12% BF year round (dexa scan says so) at 5'10" 210lbs
Eddie.
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There's a thread on the other board of a guy using the same amount of both esters from the same brand and with test E had 1000ng higher. I think it was 1700 vs 2700. I recently used some test C for the first time and when i pinned 1ml i had one of my worst pip ever, so never again in the future.
I had great success with test E with all brands until i tried a test E400 which fcked me up. Normal concentration works like a charm.
I had great success with test E with all brands until i tried a test E400 which fcked me up. Normal concentration works like a charm.
stevosaurus
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I've only ever used Test E and I've never got any pip beyond my first few jabs. But I'm also not injecting a lot of oil at the same time so I guess that would affect it.
my body clears testosterone pretty fast.
i have to minimum do 3x weekly on test e aswell otherwise i get higher estrogen than with test c.
both maxes out 52nmol test even at 120mg trt so i cant tell about test levels.
malomkarom
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Same. I'm fucking hypo 2 weeks after an E shot by day 20 it's literally 0.something nmol.
E needs a third pin for me too under 250/w atleast, the dip sucks 200 and below, C is fine twice a week surprisingly even at lower dosages, even 130-150mg/w feels fine with no noticable trough and better controlled E2. The E2 is pretty big deal too. 35 on cyp is 45-50 on E.
There is a difference. C has a smoother curve both by bloodtests and feels. Enanthate has a "dump" in the first day or so, pulling you back up to peak pretty fast and bleeds faster than cyp. Cyp is a gradual incline and decline.
Some people can't seem to effectively cycle on C as it's a weird ester that not everyone can seem to proccess well in higher doses but it's 100% fine for TRT, sports TRT or even low cycle/bridge territory and most of the time causes less pip and more stable results than E. Most people couldn't tell the difference with 2x a week dosing though, maybe due to more pippy E raws but even that isn't as big a deal as we make it.
i still dont believe any of the gear is causing pip unless its 1000mg/ml overdosed gear.
only time i experience pip is when i shoot quad.
test c, test e no pip
heavydutygorilla
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test E used to be the recommended first cycle and that's exactly what I did 14 yrs ago. I would experience pip from it, but nothing unbearable. However, now using test C for a while, it's my preferred ester. It's smooth, pain free and my body responds great. I'm at 175mg a week and 1478 test level. Like anything with this hobby, you've gotta experiment and see what works well with your biology.
malomkarom
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I doN't know man, my cheecks are already in pain as my last minute test order ended up being E. I'm a bitch though when it comes to pip.
I tore my right pec partially off the bone and was fine till it healed with not much painkilling at all (a few ibuprofens throughout the whole thing) but I can't take a proper step with average quality gear even if it's just test even though I never do much volume at all lol
HeatherSwanson
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There's something called delta-6 test E and it causes an inflammatory response. Ghoul went over it in detail a year ago. Maybe we can summon him
* clears throat
"Resorecto @Ghoul io"
*swishes and flicks wand
I've recently switched from Sustanon to Test E (pharma) for my 100mg TRT. The oil is Castor Oil. Have to say the response was 'Meh' compared to Sustanon. So I tried another version in MCT oil and again doesnt seem to illicit the libido and mood boost I got from Sustanon and it was pippy. I understand that some E raws may contain unfiltered carbolic acid and could be an cause/effect especially if test show it 95%, hard to gauge what the other 5% might be? I might leave it another couple of weeks and switch out to Test C in GSO. At some point if im dialled in like I was with Sustanon and not getting the additional positives I'll probably switch back to Sustanon which I know isnt everyone's ideal choice but there you go.
Ghoul
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Me telling people to use Test-C because Test-E has been causing PIP for years, but they keep using it anyway……
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/klsj7EolODA
malomkarom
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I can't even imagine running Sust, unless there's an entire weekly routine built around it anyways.
My first vial... well actually ampoules were sust, after a cc I was good from like hour 6 to 72 at best, heavy decline afterwards. It felt like a comedown from serious rec drugs when I started it a 1x/week. EOD it was fine but I prefer pinning less often, especially with the prop in there.
Pretty sure my recent dbol only experience felt more stable at 2x daily dosing than sust did. I ran it 3 times, ended up getting a different ester before half of it was gone twice.
adrenalytic
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Weird. I have never gotten pip from Test E or C and I'm using SSA products I bought earlier this year. Haven't tested the gear specifically but bloodwork comes back as expected.
he forgot to mention besides the delta 6 delta santa claus give him it in the ass
Slowww
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I have used both, noticed absolutely 0 difference between the two
Ghoul
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I’ve seen multiple reports of a batch of Test-E vials that was initially pipless, start causing pip 6 months or a year later. Something in it gets worse with age. Don’t know if it’s oxidation or some other type of degradation.
6 months to 1 year sounds way too little time unless the batch was produced 5 years ago and they fake the batch expiration date.
this just sounds more like scar tissue build up or weather changing and the oils turning cold with irritated injection sites than real pip.
its a ghost bust tho and raw manufacturers dont have the luxury of changing anything atm.
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