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[Whistles77]

No just that to add to the conversation saying I have seen multiple vendors with yellow test. Wondering if the raws all came from the same source.

Really difficult to evaluate without knowing the vendor or seeing the vials. Individual definition of “yellow” could range from a light tint, all the way through to an IPA. Where on the hydration chart are the vendors you’re mentioning and how does it compare to Axles

 

[Damaged1]

Really difficult to evaluate without knowing the vendor or seeing the vials. Individual definition of “yellow” could range from a light tint, all the way through to an IPA. Where on the hydration chart are the vendors you’re mentioning and how does it compare to Axles

ill post pics when i get home.

 

[Ghoul]

I don’t want to call out any specific vendor but I have test from at least two sources that is yellowish. Im using one, no issues.

Username checks out.

I can hear your endothelium screaming.

 

[Whistles77]

I can hear your endothelium screaming.

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I'm kinda amused that so many of us try to counter oxidative stress with supplements like glutathione, but are completely ok with being told to inject oxidized products.

 

[Damaged1]

I'm kinda amused that so many of us try to counter oxidative stress with supplements like glutathione, but are completely ok with being told to inject oxidized products.

I have some EQ that was crashed that i tried to remelt and it got real dark, no good now?

 

[Whistles77]

I have some EQ that was crashed that i tried to remelt and it got real dark, no good now?

I can't possibly comment. How did you try to "remelt" (dissolve/uncrash) it? Using a mug warmer, or something more drastic method?

Either way, if oxidised, whether it is "no good" depends on your own personal risk tolerance. It will likely work as an AAS, but the risks of oxidative stress on your body, your health are for you to evaluate and Meso in general seems to suffer some cognitive dissonance in that we all want to think our gear is great.

 

[Photon]

Meso in general seems to suffer some cognitive dissonance in that we all want to think our gear is great.

No1 wants to be told they bought junk.. (in general, not vendor specific)

 

[Whistles77]

No1 wants to be told they bought junk..

Some of us will avoid facing that possibility at the expense of reality and others health sadly.

 

[Damaged1]

I can't possibly comment. How did you try to "remelt" (dissolve/uncrash) it? Using a mug warmer, or something more drastic method?

Either way, if oxidised, whether it is "no good" depends on your own personal risk tolerance. It will likely work as an AAS, but the risks of oxidative stress on your body, your health are for you to evaluate and Meso in general seems to suffer some cognitive dissonance in that we all want to think our gear is great.

186 on mug warmer for 3 hours. Had it on there with other vials but it was in the center.

Left for the day and when I got home all other vials went back to gel except that one and it is way darker than the others.

Source said he will replace the vials but I wanted to see if I could save them.

 

[Ghoul]

I have some EQ that was crashed that i tried to remelt and it got real dark, no good now?

In all harm reduction seriousness, spend $20 and 15 minutes to get your HS-CRP tested.

If it’s under 1, you’re ok and not causing oxidative damage to your cardiovascular system. If it’s much higher, (I’ve had bad oil send it over 3), reconsider what you’re doing.



Make sure it’s HS-crp (high sensitivity)

 

[Whistles77]

186 on mug warmer for 3 hours.

Pretty damn hot but not scolding and for quite a long time. A brewer would be better placed than I to tell you what damage that might have done.

Is that what it took (high temp and time) to uncrash it? Did you try lower temp first?

 

[Whistles77]

In all harm reduction seriousness, spend $20 and 15 minutes to get your HS-CRP tested.

If it’s under 1, you’re ok and not causing oxidative damage to your cardiovascular system. If it’s much higher, (I’ve had bad oil send it over 3), reconsider what you’re doing.

Make sure it’s HS-crp (high sensitivity)

I for one are going to be including this in all my blood test for the foreseeable. Might be the best common sense advice i've absorbed in relation to oil colors.

 

[Damaged1]

Pretty damn hot but not scolding and for quite a long time. A brewer would be better placed than I to tell you what damage that might have done.

Is that what it took (high temp and time) to uncrash it? Did you try lower temp first?

i tried lower temps and less time for a few attempts before this happened. no success.

I am assuming the center of the mug warmer is hotter than the rest of it because only the center bottle got dark and uncrashed.

 

[Lobsterneck7]

I’d just like to chime in and say my recent order arrived very quickly. TC200 and EQ. Test had the light yelllow tint but nothing crazy. EQ was clear and none of it was crashed.

Also got my bloods done a few weeks ago post show using Axle’s Test and my HS-CRP was <0.15 for the record.

 

[Damaged1]

I for one are going to be including this in all my blood test for the foreseeable. Might be the best common sense advice i've absorbed in relation to oil colors.

I will too now that i know. I have to be careful with my cv system.

 

[Damaged1]

Ill just throw it away rather than risk it.. Source is saying he will replace. I just thought if i could fix them, he wouldnt have to send new ones.

 

[Tommygunz1401]

It’s a health reduction bored at the end of the day it happens tho you get burned you take that risk to put whatever you may think it is that your putting in your body hence the blind testing but oxidative wise your never gonna know but mct just shouldn’t be yellow unless you blew it up( it oxidized ) or you bought some cheap backyard b.s. mct prolly not medical grade doubt these Raws are all yellowing just my opinion far fetched but are people using same brewer? Maybe just a lot of mistakes you wouldn’t wanna take the fall for in these times but in the long run pays off got off topic but oxidative stress really is what we strive to combat so why risk it to each is own but all oxidative stress does nothing but progressively build why we try to flood our systems with antioxidants to combat them we already know what we’re doing to our bodies why no minimize it at all cost especially if you wanna be here for the long run just my 2 cents I had to take the lost myself it’s the weight of the pros and cons for each individual

 

[Whistles77]

I’d just like to chime in and say my recent order arrived very quickly. TC200 and EQ. Test had the light yelllow tint but nothing crazy. EQ was clear and none of it was crashed.

Also got my bloods done a few weeks ago post show using Axle’s Test and my HS-CRP was <0.15 for the record.

Good to know, but of course that will be a different batch than the one causing concern. Any interest in sacrificing yourself....for science?

 

[Whistles77]

Ill just throw it away rather than risk it.. Source is saying he will replace. I just thought if i could fix them, he wouldnt have to send new ones.

Take the replacement for sure

 

[oldage]

In all harm reduction seriousness, spend $20 and 15 minutes to get your HS-CRP tested.

If it’s under 1, you’re ok and not causing oxidative damage to your cardiovascular system. If it’s much higher, (I’ve had bad oil send it over 3), reconsider what you’re doing.

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Make sure it’s HS-crp (high sensitivity)

Those are great prices. I wish we had a lapcorp. Only Quest. Any other suggestions for bloodwork?