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I just re-read Slowww's posts. There is a lot in there to try and get it in only one read, but it hits the nail on the head. The information is valuable to you. Read it again.
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Okay that put’s alot into perspective, I rly appreciate the input, sometimes I get caught up in the faulty premises and my previous experiences, I thought since I did a short cut I could get away with a shorter reverse diet, Ik when I was 210lbs I could eat at 3900 kcal and maintain my weight so I thought I had alot of leeway.normal for water to increase and be held like this. Especially as toi get bigger, and go high carb low fat, you can really hold more water with the carbohydrates. Coming out of a depleted state your body wants to hold onto everything like water, glycogen, the fats etc.
This is why in the rebound post I advised keeping the calories the same and adjust on a weekly basis, and surplus small until the water settles primarily. Then it is increased after both water and lean tissue gains even out. L
It looks like you added calories every couple days which means obviously every time you increase carbs, youre going to hold more water relative to the amount of carbs you add. Adding every two days like you did gives you no time to collect information from feedback your body is giving you, or find a real maintenance (when we see you stop growing from calories not from additional glycogen)
You added like 800 calories in a ladder after the first week, then a total of what 1,100 or so compared to the end of the cut in the second week. You are definitely going to have to wait a while for water and weight to stabilize.
Thats a huge amount of Calories for your weight and right out of the gate. To compare bro i held 245lbs on 3,800 calories and that was where my calories were 8 weeks out of my deficit.
I’d knock it down significantly immediately. imo youre going to get fat and ruin your off season if you add at this speed right out of the gate. Then keep it steady until your weight settles and if it doesn’t increase a week then add some calories.
The training days were unrelated to the reverse, I just wanted to go hit the gym more frequently out of boredom, I didn’t change my volume, just spread it out. I do the same total sets.Again bro if people can maintain 245 on 3800, there is no way 3200 is not a surplus for a 186 pound male. Your math is wayyyyyy off— adding training days to burn calories also bad idea if you are making progress on your training program. Youre making a huge amount of beginner mistakes. The first and most important aspect is CONSISTENCY. That doesnt just mean adhering to the protocol, but your program has to be consistent itself bro!
As I just mentioned a post ago, very fair analysis.Deadpool99, please pay close attention to what others are writing you.
Read it again, and again more slowly.
You say you are "confused," but you should not be. The only thing confusing you are the assumptions you brought with you to the conversation, which are unreliable premises.
Frankly, you probably need to reduce your calories at this point. You added 1100 calories a day over a period of 11 days - that is a huge change, not a small change.
Exercise discipline and self control and a careful plan with a goal in mind, which should be adjusted only by small amounts based on what you see on the scale and the mirror or photos of mandatory poses.
Don't adjust based on faulty premises. The scale and photos of mandatories do not lie.
We reset each time, and an individuals’ body doesn’t have the same needs due to different mass, outputs with movement due to less body fat, metabolic differences, insulin resistance between end of cut & peak bulk. It doesn’t just change from person to person but the individual depending on TDE, muscle that has been lost, and so on. It’s nice to know what you needed last time to compare if you’re OCD about data, but treating your condition as it develops in real time will be more useful than assumptions about what your body will handle based on a totally different period of timeOkay that put’s alot into perspective, I rly appreciate the input, sometimes I get caught up in the faulty premises and my previous experiences, I thought since I did a short cut I could get away with a shorter reverse diet, Ik when I was 210lbs I could eat at 3900 kcal and maintain my weight so I thought I had alot of leeway.
Fair enough, just remember if you’re doing training vs rest day cals, your average inputs and then body weight will change. So you need to look for a pattern here before you go crazy adding stuff to diet again.The training days were unrelated to the reverse, I just wanted to go hit the gym more frequently out of boredom, I didn’t change my volume, just spread it out. I do the same total sets.
Yeah man this is not something I’m commenting on haha. Normal stuff happens, just not a great idea to intentionally start mashing out cardio when you need to establish a baselineThe step count was out of my control, family came to town and well… I was forced to walk more.
No problem bro, any timeConsistency is key, I kind of fucked around with that when it should have been my priority, biggest mistake but hopefully not too late to fix.
I rly appreciate ur help.



| Marker | Pre-Cut (No pita, Nac only) | Mid-Cut (2 weeks on Pita 4mg, Tudca/Nac/Sam-e) | Post-Cut (4mg Pita, Nac, Gluta 400mg) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Total Cholesterol | 70 | 92 | 77 |
| LDL-C | 32 | 54 | 41 |
| HDL-C | 24 | 27 | 21 |
| Triglycerides | 49 | 57 | 68 |
| AST (SGOT) | 46 | 72 | 72 |
| ALT (SGPT) | 66 | 73 | 112 |
| eGFR | 105 | 114 | 121 |
@ChemBB We talk about leptin, but do u think bodybuilders usually have healthy leptin to begin with everything they do?Updated Bloodwork:
my leptin usually takes a dip cutting. also t3 drops below normal ref range.@ChemBB We talk about leptin, but do u think bodybuilders usually have healthy leptin to begin with everything they do?
I have some family visiting in 10 days. Perfect timing, should just be entering a bulk.my leptin usually takes a dip cutting. also t3 drops below normal ref range.
usually 1-2 refeeds a week keeps it normal range.
ive only tested it while being 15% bodyfat so cant say.I do wonder if bodybuilders test leptin often, I can’t imagine people being lower bf for long periods of time having a healthy leptin
Do you take ksm-66 by any chance?I actually have chronically _low_ cortisol
Great, thanks for the values. Nice to see the trends and great to see someone tracking it.I actually have chronically _low_ cortisol from PED's, that keeps getting lower...
Most recent value was 3.6
And yeah, I imagine leptin levels in offseason should be normal range for BB'ers
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The original plan was to maintain testicular function to pct. However I took HCG off as I don’t plan to do any PCT anytime soon againNice log bro! I saw in the beginning you mention cycling on and off hcg , just wondering what your thought process is behind that ? I run it year round so just wondering if there are some benefits of cycling on and off.
