A comprenhensive tb500 frag thread

[zneekah]

Love this thread. Expecting TB500 frag in a couple weeks and will be doing some experiments with that.

Other stuff I wanna try out: BPC belly subQ systemic effect.

Long term im kinda leaning towards buying BPC/TB500 frag in the form of raw powders and do them continously in high dosages (3mg-5mg+) to see what they can accomplish recovery/prehab/rehab wise.

Would be nice with a 3ml cartridge containing 100mg BPC/100mg TB500 frag and just do a daily tummy shot with the insulin pen.

Hopefully vendors here catch on with selling megadose vials (40mg maybe like with MOTS-c) and/or raw powdersl

Again great job to @dinfar1337

 

[Liter O' Test]

if your ara is unbuffered, apparently you need to use "PBS" to reconstitute, which also doesnt seem like you can safely do multiple injections from the same vial with

if anyone has some info on this im all ears, apparently using BAC can affect aggregation and effectiveness

Solubility and Formulation: ARA290 is reported to dissolve readily in PBSpmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov, whereas it may not fully dissolve in pure water or might form particulates if simply mixed with bacteriostatic water. Ensuring a clear solution is critical; thus PBS (or saline) is the more reliable diluent to get ARA290 into solution. Furthermore, PBS reconstitution can be done immediately before injection (each dose prepared fresh), which avoids the need to store the peptide in solution for long periods. If multi-dose storage is required, some protocols might still use BA water, but from a “clinically preferred” standpoint, single-use PBS vials are ideal.


Peptide Stability: PBS provides a buffered, isotonic environment that protects ARA290’s integrity. The neutral pH reduces the chance of acid or base-catalyzed degradation and mimics the conditions under which the peptide will act in the body. Bacteriostatic water, being unbuffered and slightly acidic, could introduce uncertainty in pH and has been associated with protein unfolding/aggregation in some casesresearchgate.net. While ARA290 is small and likely stable, the conservative choice is to use a buffer known to preserve stability.

Solubility and Formulation: ARA290 is reported to dissolve readily in PBSpmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov, whereas it may not fully dissolve in pure water or might form particulates if simply mixed with bacteriostatic water. Ensuring a clear solution is critical; thus PBS (or saline) is the more reliable diluent to get ARA290 into solution. Furthermore, PBS reconstitution can be done immediately before injection (each dose prepared fresh), which avoids the need to store the peptide in solution for long periods. If multi-dose storage is required, some protocols might still use BA water, but from a “clinically preferred” standpoint, single-use PBS vials are ideal.

anyway im like day 5 of tb frag and 4mg ara

 

[dinfar1337]

If multi-dose storage is required, some protocols might still use BA water, but from a “clinically preferred” standpoint, single-use PBS vials are ideal.

this to me seems like bac water is g2g, although ive never tried ara so the other guys might have more info than me

 

[dinfar1337]

Long term im kinda leaning towards buying BPC/TB500 frag in the form of raw powders and do them continously in high dosages (3mg-5mg+) to see what they can accomplish recovery/prehab/rehab wise.

i know a few pros who does this.

but instead of 1 spot. they shoot in the muscle they're going to train today

week 1 protocol:

left chest day1, left lat day2, left leg day3, left arm day4

week 2 protocol:

they do the same muscles but in right.

or you can be hardcore enough and pump 3mg into both muscles same day.

and on rest day you can choose to shot either into weak point or just systemic stomach like you do.

 

[Liter O' Test]

this to me seems like bac water is g2g, although ive never tried ara so the other guys might have more info than me

yeah idk, i dont see a lot of people rave about ara so maybe people just have been using bac making it less effective , who knows.

 

[dinfar1337]

i think 3x a week is simply wrong and we should dose it eod from my overview here.

seems like nick walker is also doing eod for his tb peptide protocol! somebody has read my thread jk

 

[zneekah]

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seems like nick walker is also doing eod for his tb peptide protocol! somebody has read my thread jk

No BPC though and some unclear stuff like NAD+, I think Meso hive mind is ahead tbh !

i know a few pros who does this.

but instead of 1 spot. they shoot in the muscle they're going to train today

week 1 protocol:

left chest day1, left lat day2, left leg day3, left arm day4

week 2 protocol:

they do the same muscles but in right.

or you can be hardcore enough and pump 3mg into both muscles same day.

and on rest day you can choose to shot either into weak point or just systemic stomach like you do.

Its a cool protocl but its a liiittle more hassle than what I'd wanna make a day to day routine which is why im curious on what systemic BPC can do. Afaik the whole inject local thing isn't understood thoroughly and more based on anecdotes.

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

How do you guys dose bpc and tb4/ and 500?

Like because of bpc and tb4s not long half life compared to tb500 should they be dosed twice daily?

Can I still get as much benefit with only injecting once a day?

Especially with the higher dosages in going to be doing not sure if anything changes?

My stuff just arrived

 

[nixu]

How do you guys dose bpc and tb4/ and 500?

Like because of bpc and tb4s not long half life compared to tb500 should they be dosed twice daily?

Can I still get as much benefit with only injecting once a day?

Especially with the higher dosages in going to be doing not sure if anything changes?

My stuff just arrived

BPC and TB4 both have very short life, because of that most popular dosing is to do 2 injections a day. I do one in a morning, one in a evening. This has worked well for me. I started with 125mcg twice a day and currently on "high" dosing, which is 750mcg twice a day.

Doing a single loaded injection can increase side effects, especially in the beginning. If this is your first peptide, I would recommend to start with low dosing and see how you can handle it.

Also make sure it is Thymosin beta-4 and not TB500 frag.

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

BPC and TB4 both have very short life, because of that most popular dosing is to do 2 injections a day. I do one in a morning, one in a evening. This has worked well for me. I started with 125mcg twice a day and currently on "high" dosing, which is 750mcg twice a day.

Doing one "big" single injection can increase side effects, especially in the beginning. If this is your first peptide, I would recommend to start with low dosing and see how you can handle it.

Also make sure it is Thymosin beta-4 and not TB500 frag.

Why tb4 over tb500? That goes against everything this thread has said

 

[nixu]

Why tb4 over tb500? That goes against everything this thread has said

TB4 and TB500 Frag have different half life which effect dosing protocol. So it depends which you have. TB4 and BPC157 is usually dosed twice a day. TB4 is usually labeled as "TB-500", that is why I said make sure which one you have.

 

[Ateam2023]

Tb 500 frag (889 da) is the one i prefer but have done tb4 with good results after surgery,

 

[Ateam2023]

BPC and TB4 both have very short life, because of that most popular dosing is to do 2 injections a day. I do one in a morning, one in a evening. This has worked well for me. I started with 125mcg twice a day and currently on "high" dosing, which is 750mcg twice a day.

Doing a single loaded injection can increase side effects, especially in the beginning. If this is your first peptide, I would recommend to start with low dosing and see how you can handle it.

Also make sure it is Thymosin beta-4 and not TB500 frag.

What side effects are you speaking of

 

[nixu]

What side effects are you speaking of

I was having headache and fatigue at the beginning of TB4 dosing. These side effects went away after couple of weeks. I started low dose, but I would expect single loaded injection at the beginning might amplify these side effects.

As I am aware the side effects are mild for TB4 and TB500 frag, at least for "short-term usage".

 

[Wizbang]

zero sides, been on frag now for nearly a month straight, 1mg ED AM

 

[Ateam2023]

Ive been on some form of tb4/500/frag since 2023, i took a short break in between , but I can't even remember how long that break was , so likely not long, ,, hmmm "i wonder if this is causing my high hct" since 2023 , meh probably the Testosterone,,

 

[ShinyDiscoBallz]

Uther is g2 g ,hgh is on lower end though

Are you saying that Uther's HGH is not good?

 

[Ateam2023]

Are you saying that Uther's HGH is not good?

Where do you gather that ? It was on the lower end of purity for the "batch in question " on the jano , nothing more , doesn't mean its not good , wasn't good enough for me , but i am more than satisfied with the products i do buy from Uther.

 

[ShinyDiscoBallz]

Where do you gather that ? It was on the lower end of purity for the "batch in question " on the jano , nothing more , doesn't mean its not good , wasn't good enough for me , but i am more than satisfied with the products i do buy from Uther.

I was asking because ive just bought 300iu of HGH from Uther

Below is the latest COA

 

[Ateam2023]

I was asking because ive just bought 300iu of HGH from Uther

Below is the latest COA

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those are the results i was looking at also, Its not to say its bad its just less potent than say 97% , thats my comfort zone when I personally buy hgh, but absolutely run it i see no reason why, ,,, ohhhhh and "Don't forget to filter it" heheheheeeee eeee