Defiant Pharma (US Domestic)

[Turkeybuilder]

Is TNE strictly an acute performance drug or does it make any long lasting gains? Like the way I hear people talk about it or describe it it seems like it would just be cool to use for a crazy PR you know you’re about to go for.

 

[RockyP]

Is TNE strictly an acute performance drug or does it make any long lasting gains? Like the way I hear people talk about it or describe it it seems like it would just be cool to use for a crazy PR you know you’re about to go for.

Like all the hormonal preworkouts it’s used for a “big” boost on certain days. It’s test so there’s no reason to use it daily as opposed to just running a higher dosage of a longer ester. It’s great for PR days or when you’re dragging ass deep in a diet. Same can be said for the other oral and injectable preworkouts like superdrol, anadrol, dbol, mtren, anavar, etc. some of those also can be used more regularly for size gains / aesthetics (anadrol, anavar respectively) but in general the pre workout injectables are just that, preworkouts.

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Like all the hormonal preworkouts it’s used for a “big” boost on certain days. It’s test so there’s no reason to use it daily as opposed to just running a higher dosage of a longer ester. It’s great for PR days or when you’re dragging ass deep in a diet. Same can be said for the other oral and injectable preworkouts like superdrol, anadrol, dbol, mtren, anavar, etc. some of those also can be used more regularly for size gains / aesthetics (anadrol, anavar respectively) but in general the pre workout injectables are just that, preworkouts.

Interesting, makes sense. Just for days you want that extra oomph lol

I never hear anyone speak of the downsides to using it but i can’t imagine blasting your test to 5k+ and e2 to God knows what comes with no sides lol

 

[ackmack78]

Ohhhhhhh it can add a whole other level to a tren/anadrol blast

I deload every 6th week as an old guy so the last 2 weeks of a training cycle I'll throw in 140 tren and 50 drol a few times throughout my cycle. Really helps push the intensity and I'm assuming adds some muscle

 

[CHIEF M]

Haven't decided yet. I was gonna start off with a conservative ratio like 2:1 to see how it goes but most bros are recommending 1:1 at minimum 4-500/wk or more. You gonna run a combo or just Test/DHB?

Currently running sustanon EQ and npp might switch the EQ out I was thinking start at 300mg or might go lower

 

[sionnach]

Currently running sustanon EQ and npp might switch the EQ out I was thinking start at 300mg or might go lower

 

[CHIEF M]

Some updates real quick.

Got the Deca raw in so will be sending that off for testing along with the EQ500 and TE250 in MCT. Also going to try and get this TNE75 made up and sent off with these as well. I feel like I'm missing something else. If I think of it I'll get back.

Also got some new and better vials in stock. US made Gerresheimer from here on out.

thanks,

D.

TNE ? Test or tren ?

 

[CHIEF M]

Some updates real quick.

Got the Deca raw in so will be sending that off for testing along with the EQ500 and TE250 in MCT. Also going to try and get this TNE75 made up and sent off with these as well. I feel like I'm missing something else. If I think of it I'll get back.

Also got some new and better vials in stock. US made Gerresheimer from here on out.

thanks,

D.

Might need to grab some EQ500

 

[thoryamaha919]

Might need to grab some EQ500

There’s no “might” there’s only a must!

 

[CHIEF M]

There’s no “might” there’s only a must!

I still have like a lil under half of a 20ml and a brand new 20ml waiting lol so no rush for me lol

 

[AllGoodThings]

Definitely looking forward to the tne. Never tried it but I've been hearing so much good stuff about it as a pre. Not sure how much it can add over a quick tren/anadrol blast but I'm game to try.

Test/tren/Anadrol along with TNE/Superdrol (injectable)/methyltrienolone (injectable) PWO and you'll be having workouts like you've not previously experienced.

 

[Nixonnow99]

 

[CHIEF M]

Will post my vials tmrw or maybe later tonight

 

[Photon]

Interesting, makes sense. Just for days you want that extra oomph lol

I never hear anyone speak of the downsides to using it but i can’t imagine blasting your test to 5k+ and e2 to God knows what comes with no sides lol

Most people don't report increased e2 from it.
It doesn't move my e2.
It clears too rapidly.

Post in thread 'Anyone run MENT and tren together?'

Aug 13, 2023

That doesn't surprise me at all, I'd imagine because it's peak, and subsequent clearance times as so short it's not enough time for any meaningful aromatization or other retention mechanisms to take place?

That's my thinking also, because it is, so it must be, basically.

I have kept this data (TNE; testosterone base, oil vehicle) to show that it is not as potently estrogenic at 2.5 - 3 h as one might assume (50 mg TNE) following single dose pharmacodynamics. Testosterone No Ester (TNE) PART 2...
* At 2.5 - 3 h post-injection (50 mg testosterone base, oil vehicle; TNE):
*...

• Type-IIx

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[newguy2]

Interesting, makes sense. Just for days you want that extra oomph lol

I never hear anyone speak of the downsides to using it but i can’t imagine blasting your test to 5k+ and e2 to God knows what comes with no sides lol

I started messing with it and really liked it. Was using it maybe 4 days a week while on a modest 500mg test blast. It cranked up my hematocrit to like 56.5 so I had to stop using it.

 

[Defiant Pharma]

TNE ? Test or tren ?

Test No Ester brother. I don't have any tren base raw. I think I have seen some around available though. I'll see if I can get some if y'all would want that on the list.

D.

 

[RockyP]

Test No Ester brother. I don't have any tren base raw. I think I have seen some around available though. I'll see if I can get some if y'all would want that on the list.

D.

Any potential for non water based injectable winstrol?

 

[Defiant Pharma]

Any potential for non water based injectable winstrol?

I hadn't really though about it but if there was enough interest I would look into it.

 

[Oldhand]

Any potential for non water based injectable winstrol?

I hadn't really thought about it but if there was enough interest I would look into it.

I have some oil based winny but haven’t used water in years… I remember it hurting a bit more.

I’m sure oil/water each have pros and cons. Does water absorb faster or something?

 

[RockyP]

I have some oil based winny but haven’t used water in years… I remember it hurting a bit more.

I’m sure oil/water each have pros and cons. Does water absorb faster or something?

Water based is more prone to infections / contamination as far as I know, and I remember it being awfully painful. Not something I'd want to do daily. I had an oil based a loooong time ago that worked great and was tolerable. On balance, they're both pretty PIP-ish unfortunately. Not sure there will be enough demand for a full batch.