Test Undecanoate

[muscletrain]

I think the uptick in Test U posts specifically probably has to do with the state of raws and the way the wind is blowing without change it seems. Might be people looking at the best option to stock up for long term TRT. Both Test U and D are great for it and also you don't have to worry if you want to take a long vacation for 3-4 weeks and come back bone dry.

There's plenty of guides but it usually just involves overlapping your Test C/E for a couple weeks alongside your Test U, potentially lowering the Test C/E each week as well if you want to get more scientific then dropping it completely. I think 3-4 weeks is plenty enough time to transition over.

The misconception people have is thinking they can just hop on Test U right before a long trip. You need at least 6 weeks prior administration imo.

Most UGL test U I've seen has been in something other than castor oil so that will change the math a bit on it.

 

[Alert_Custard]

I did move into test U from test c during the last 3 weeks of a small blast. Decreasing test c and front loading test U over the 3 weeks. Then continuing with the test U dose for trt. It went well

 

[trtchin]

I have been thinking as well to switch my trt to test U. I can probably get a legit script for nebido and just stack test C/E/P on top to blast.

Is there any truth to some people saying that test U or test U in castor oil can leave some with elevated hematocrit due to levels being stable all the time (and assuming you run on the higher range of test levels).

 

[Tdeck81]

leave some with elevated hematocrit due to levels

Not sure this is exclusive to test u and castor oil. I thought any trt or high testosterone use can cause this. Maybe someone can give a definitive answer

 

[muscletrain]

I have been thinking as well to switch my trt to test U. I can probably get a legit script for nebido and just stack test C/E/P on top to blast.

Is there any truth to some people saying that test U or test U in castor oil can leave some with elevated hematocrit due to levels being stable all the time (and assuming you run on the higher range of test levels).

I don't see why U would elevate it moreso than any other one dosed at the same amount accounting for ester weight differences. The only issue is if you want to lower/come off Test U it takes a much longer time to adjust. Other than that people are getting in the weeds and test is test once your body cleaves the ester.

Kind of prefer the ugl Test U not in castor oil, sure it knocks off some time but it's still plenty long enough and most people are injecting once or twice a week anyways not the every 1 month like prescription Nebido. Makes adjusting it a bit faster.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I don't see why U would elevate it moreso than any other one dosed at the same amount accounting for ester weight differences. The only issue is if you want to lower/come off Test U it takes a much longer time to adjust. Other than that people are getting in the weeds and test is test once your body cleaves the ester.

Kind of prefer the ugl Test U not in castor oil, sure it knocks off some time but it's still plenty long enough and most people are injecting once or twice a week anyways not the every 1 month like prescription Nebido. Makes adjusting it a bit faster.

you are right. its the location of the peak that would determine erythropoiesis levels. The erythropoietin level that shoots up would determine that mount of red blood cells that are developed.

when you look at some drugs like EPO injections, they are given every 2-4 weeks to trigger production. they have a short half life as well.

 

[Wombr]

Do you need to use a lower dose due to the half life? Looking at steroidplotter 30mg test cyp daily vs 30mg test u daily. The test u is saturated at 1800ng/dl, the test cyp at 1200ng/dl.

 

[Sampei]

Do you need to use a lower dose due to the half life? Looking at steroidplotter 30mg test cyp daily vs 30mg test u daily. The test u is saturated at 1800ng/dl, the test cyp at 1200ng/dl.View attachment 359101

Plotter is shit never use it.


Test U is awesome I have been using it siince two years ago. I however inject it once a week as I can't bother remembering the every two week schedule.

Super smooth no pip and super stable I use as my test base for blasting and for my TRT.

Works like a charm and it's perfect for any traveling etc. Just shoot twice the amount for two weeks or triple it for a three week window or more

 

[Eddie.]

Plotter is shit never use it.


Test U is awesome I have been using it siince two years ago. I however inject it once a week as I can't bother remembering the every two week schedule.

Super smooth no pip and super stable I use as my test base for blasting and for my TRT.

Works like a charm and it's perfect for any traveling etc. Just shoot twice the amount for two weeks or triple it for a three week window or more

Wouldn't D work the same for once a week shoot? Even for 2 weeks, considering the amount of people shooting test C every 2 weeks without feeling off too much.

 

[Sampei]

Wouldn't D work the same for once a week shoot? Even for 2 weeks, considering the amount of people shooting test C every 2 weeks without feeling off too much.

Sure but I like to play what IF
What if I wanna go and do 1 month travel?

What if I ended up in the hospital and can't pin for three/four weeks?

What if...

Test U mantained at saturation like I have it allows me to have lots of option when and if I need it.


I use test D for blasting or better I USED it now I just use test U 300mg week as a base and use other substances for my blasting, I find it a lot better

 

[Psy-chonaut]

(I am doing a bloody copy/paste of what you are doing @Sampei, for some of the same reasons)

So I am just a newbie with U - been pinning 300mg every Sunday morning now for 6 weeks... And I am lovning it so far....

 

[muscletrain]

Wouldn't D work the same for once a week shoot? Even for 2 weeks, considering the amount of people shooting test C every 2 weeks without feeling off too much.

Yes Test D would work almost as well, Test D alone seems to be more uncommon than Test U (usually it's a base in the blends). Luckily there's still access to both here. I'd feel just fine if Test D was saturated and hitting a bolus shot before leaving even for 3 weeks. Any longer and Test U is definitely the play.

Hell some guys do Test E/C once a week but I wouldn't.

Test D would cover 2 week vacations for example no problem.

All this stuff about Test U giving different sides or less or random stuff like more acne is all anecdotal, your body is just taking a longer time to cleave the ester and then test is test. The only hard science is the long saturation time and clearance time.

I'd follow the once a week or even 2 injections if you still want to with Test U and then just have it in the back pocket that you can head off and travel without worry when vacations/trips come up and not worry about pinning. Obviously twice a week isn't necessary, but don't mind it. Personal preference.

 

[Eddie.]

Sure but I like to play what IF
What if I wanna go and do 1 month travel?

What if I ended up in the hospital and can't pin for three/four weeks?

What if...

Test U mantained at saturation like I have it allows me to have lots of option when and if I need it.


I use test D for blasting or better I USED it now I just use test U 300mg week as a base and use other substances for my blasting, I find it a lot better

If you have to leave abroad for a month you must plan the pinning schedule way earlier as you know already. I see some guys flirting with this idea and they simply think they can front load 1 gram the day before leaving and they'll be fine, like steady levels lol..that shit's gonna take a while to start peaking, probably about 1-2 weeks after they'll return lol.

Also i don't know about you but if i had some life threatening event (knock on wood) the last thing I'd think about is having a gram of test U linger in my body while I'm trying to recover. People is getting obsessed with numbers and low T symptoms. There are guys living with 100ng for years before noticing. Yes, i would not enjoy seeing my gains evaporated but if I'll end up admitted 250mg of test while on bed won't do jackshit, and screw my libido and everything lol.

But i don't judge ofc, i know it's a mental thing and how each one of us approaches it. If one has to go on vacation to enjoy life, sightseeing and what not, last thing he needs is that annoying voice in the head telling him "say goodbye to your muscles, you'll return home a skinny fat beta male" haha.

 

[Sampei]

If you have to leave abroad for a month you must plan the pinning schedule way earlier as you know already. I see some guys flirting with this idea and they simply think they can front load 1 gram the day before leaving and they'll be fine, like steady levels lol..that shit's gonna take a while to start peaking, probably about 1-2 weeks after they'll return lol.

Also i don't know about you but if i had some life threatening event (knock on wood) the last thing I'd think about is having a gram of test U linger in my body while I'm trying to recover. People is getting obsessed with numbers and low T symptoms. There are guys living with 100ng for years before noticing. Yes, i would not enjoy seeing my gains evaporated but if I'll end up admitted 250mg of test while on bed won't do jackshit, and screw my libido and everything lol.

But i don't judge ofc, i know it's a mental thing and how each one of us approaches it. If one has to go on vacation to enjoy life, sightseeing and what not, last thing he needs is that annoying voice in the head telling him "say goodbye to your muscles, you'll return home a skinny fat beta male" haha.

No your assumption is wrong, if I have already my test U level at saturation if I Pin for example 300mg a week of test U and then decide to do a 3 week vacation I'll just pin 900mg of test U and leave. It works the ester is so slow that it will just takes a serious long time to release all that testosterone and you will enjoy a vacation without any drop. It takes a long time to peak but it takes a long time to drop Off as well.

You can't pin 900mg put of the blue, that's correct but if you are already pinning test U it's a complete different story

About the hospital thing, if I inject test U 300mg once a week in castor and then I get into a hospital and have no way of pinning those 300mg will sustain me for way more than 3-4 weeks something any other ester will never be able to. I would feel bad already at the end of week 1.5 with test C/E and week 2.5 with test D depending on the carrier oil used.

So yeah for me test U is superior in everything for TRT cruise but hey everyone should just pin whatever they prefer it's not like I give a fuck

 

[Eddie.]

You can't pin 900mg put of the blue, that's correct but if you are already pinning test U it's a complete different story

Oh really? My bad then, that's interesting.

 

[Tdeck81]

All this stuff about Test U giving different sides or less or random stuff like more acne is all anecdotal, your body is just taking a longer time to cleave the ester and then test is test. The only hard science is the long saturation time and clearance time.

I’ve seen people mention this and was curious how common the sides are. I’m going to assume to more than with the other esters.

It works the ester is so slow that it will just takes a serious long time to release all that testosterone and you will enjoy a vacation without any drop. It takes a long time to peak but it takes a long time to drop Off as well.

The long half life is what peaked my interest. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t that account for the higher blood concentrations listed above in the plotter? Assuming one uses the same mg injection test u vs test c

 

[Sampei]

I’ve seen people mention this and was curious how common the sides are. I’m going to assume to more than with the other esters.

The long half life is what peaked my interest. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t that account for the higher blood concentrations listed above in the plotter? Assuming one uses the same mg injection test u vs test c

No because that stupid plotter is showing you total quantity of test U in your body not the active test U in your body.

What I mean is: yes the total quantity it will be higher but the active quantity at same dosage is less because it takes a longer time to get released in your body and be processed.
Plus the ester is heavier so less test molecule mg for mg.

A longer heavier ester mg for mg will never be able to peak higher than a shorter lighter ester.

This is chemistry not an opinion.

 

[Tdeck81]

No because that stupid plotter is showing you total quantity of test U in your body not the active test U in your body

Makes perfect sense, got it now. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

 

[hexagonal]

Test U in castor is my plan for basically rest-of-my-life TRT/cruise/base dose for blasting.

Let's me not worry about international travel or vacationing in general. When I need to go up for a blast, I can just use e or c on top of it.

If shit happens, it gives me much more runway before I feel like total garbage.

 

[eryximachus]

Wasn't there a hermacrotit issue that was the reason it took forever to get approved in the US? I know in Europe under socialized medicine it's great - once every 2 months or whatever they do, so they had a financial incentive. Here, the government would probably have just banned testosterone if it wasn't for the tranny clown world revolution.