Favorite PED for preworkout (and dose)

[anon55]

Methylstenbolone is the best oral I ever tried, strength boost like dbol, pump like dbol, dry like superdrol.
And pretty okay liver values wise, and no digestive issue.
Hard to find.

 

[RockyP]

Thnx Will def get me some astragalus extract.

That in mind, some people are just more sensitive than others. If you plan to run anavar again I’d get a baseline Cystatin C and then again while running it with the astragalus. If your levels are still elevated I’d leave the anavar alone. Not worth it the risk.

 

[sliderke]

Astragalus. And a lot of water.

Got me astragalus powder. How much is the recommended dose. And would differ it between on cycle and on cruise? Or nothing on cruise?

 

[Photon]

Interesting to see sdrol so high on the list.

Got me astragalus powder. How much is the recommended dose. And would differ it between on cycle and on cruise? Or nothing on cruise?

Take based off ur bloodwork
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[facinghardships]

Methylstenbolone is the best oral I ever tried, strength boost like dbol, pump like dbol, dry like superdrol.
And pretty okay liver values wise, and no digestive issue.
Hard to find.

Msten is absolutely fantastic. I've fortunately got a bit stashed away. If you want to get really dirty, stacking it with dymethazine is an insane run. I believe that was the combo in the original superDMZ that Blacksone Labs put out

 

[mademyselftheman]

how much time pre workout you pin / take the orals?

 

[RockyP]

how much time pre workout you pin / take the orals?

I usually take the oral with my pre workout meal 90 mins or so prior to training. Have not done any IM PWO's.

 

[Sampei]

Dbol injectable 50mg best feeling ever

 

[RockyP]

Dbol injectable 50mg best feeling ever

does it wreck the BP?

 

[fw190jd]

Msten is absolutely fantastic. I've fortunately got a bit stashed away. If you want to get really dirty, stacking it with dymethazine is an insane run. I believe that was the combo in the original superDMZ that Blacksone Labs put out

can't find that shit anywhere

 

[Sampei]

does it wreck the BP?

Not to me

 

[Photon]

can't find that shit anywhere

Hard to justify the cost..raws are 3x sdrol prices..

 

[IndividualMan]

Dbol injectable 50mg best feeling ever

INJ Dbol? how does one brew that? i never handled Dbol raws for brewing (only ever oral suspensions/tabs) because I was under the impression it needs G for reasonable mg/ml.

Might be interesting to do a fun little Dbol/Sdrol/TNE mix. Kinda like PPLs frog juice, just without the retarded TrNE making people cough their cock off

Hard to justify the cost..raws are 3x sdrol prices..

: ( I will be so mad about Msten prices once I get my money up enough to buy an amount large enough where the vast difference in price/gram matters.

 

[Photon]

INJ Dbol? how does one brew that? i never handled Dbol raws for brewing (only ever oral suspensions/tabs) because I was under the impression it needs G for reasonable mg/ml.

Go by melting points..lower it is the easier to hold
Interestingly the toxic shit has the lowest melting pts lol (sdrol and mtren)

 

[Sampei]

INJ Dbol? how does one brew that? i never handled Dbol raws for brewing (only ever oral suspensions/tabs) because I was under the impression it needs G for reasonable mg/ml.

Might be interesting to do a fun little Dbol/Sdrol/TNE mix. Kinda like PPLs frog juice, just without the retarded TrNE making people cough their cock off

: ( I will be so mad about Msten prices once I get my money up enough to buy an amount large enough where the vast difference in price/gram matters.

Super easy to brew dbol no need of guiacol at all that and superdrol are a breeze to brew, I mean superdrol can be brewed with 20℅ BB lol

 

[IndividualMan]

Go by melting points..lower it is the easier to hold
Interestingly the toxic shit has the lowest melting pts lol (sdrol and mtren)
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damn. no wonder my test ace from PPL which turned out to be Var had such a goddamn hard time dissolving. MP of 238 is ridiculo.

Why does noone do high conc Mtren inject? i get that it is rather expensive and REALLY unhealthy, but I know enough people who are crazy like that and might be tempted to use it.

Super easy to brew dbol no need of guiacol at all that and superdrol are a breeze to brew, I mean superdrol can be brewed with 20℅ BB lol

yeah, i know about the ease of brewing Sdrol. made some TNE 75 and TNE75+Sdrol 20 this week. holds surprisingly well at rather low Ba/BB as well (4/22 makes it hold at around 5°C or whatever my fridge temp is atm).

Might have to grab some Dbol raws at some point, or maybe look into that new guy (Venom labs I think) to see if he could make me a few vials of a custom mix. I know he has Sdrol and TNE raws laying around and is open to brewing with different oils (castor oil my beloved). I know he said he might have Trest E coming in, so I would def consider getting DHB and MENT E off my list, maybe I could add a few nice custom vials (50TNE 20Sdrol 25Dbol) of my very own frog juice to that order.
What could I call it?
I really like his vibe, and I am really considering going for some EU domestic sources for nice little treats lately, so his operation seems like a source worth considering for me. (not shilling/vouching tho, just thinking in text form)

 

[Photon]

damn. no wonder my test ace from PPL which turned out to be Var had such a goddamn hard time dissolving. MP of 238 is ridiculo.

Why does noone do high conc Mtren inject? i get that it is rather expensive and REALLY unhealthy, but I know enough people who are crazy like that and might be tempted to use it.

Any oral inj above 200MP is not worth the trouble (except prov)

This is the highest mtren I've seen. You rarely need above 2mg of this..even 3mg gives me acid reflux despite being an inj..

Janoshik Analytical

yeah, i know about the ease of brewing Sdrol. made some TNE 75 and TNE75+Sdrol 20 this week. holds surprisingly well at rather low Ba/BB as well (4/22 makes it hold at around 5°C or whatever my fridge temp is atm).

Using MCT?

 

[Sampei]

damn. no wonder my test ace from PPL which turned out to be Var had such a goddamn hard time dissolving. MP of 238 is ridiculo.

Why does noone do high conc Mtren inject? i get that it is rather expensive and REALLY unhealthy, but I know enough people who are crazy like that and might be tempted to use it.

yeah, i know about the ease of brewing Sdrol. made some TNE 75 and TNE75+Sdrol 20 this week. holds surprisingly well at rather low Ba/BB as well (4/22 makes it hold at around 5°C or whatever my fridge temp is atm).

Might have to grab some Dbol raws at some point, or maybe look into that new guy (Venom labs I think) to see if he could make me a few vials of a custom mix. I know he has Sdrol and TNE raws laying around and is open to brewing with different oils (castor oil my beloved). I know he said he might have Trest E coming in, so I would def consider getting DHB and MENT E off my list, maybe I could add a few nice custom vials (50TNE 20Sdrol 25Dbol) of my very own frog juice to that order.
What could I call it?
I really like his vibe, and I am really considering going for some EU domestic sources for nice little treats lately, so his operation seems like a source worth considering for me. (not shilling/vouching tho, just thinking in text form)

I mean the blend you are thinking I believe are pretty possible and easy to do.
I would personally lower the sdrol quantity in the frog juice xD 20mg sdrol kicks like a mule
But still easy to do bevause with the solvents needed to hold the TNE50 you already well past what's needed to hold dbol 25 and SD 20mg so no much fiddling needed.


Castor oil helps quite a bit in holding these substances, don't know why but that's how it is.

 

[fw190jd]

damn. no wonder my test ace from PPL which turned out to be Var had such a goddamn hard time dissolving. MP of 238 is ridiculo.

Why does noone do high conc Mtren inject? i get that it is rather expensive and REALLY unhealthy, but I know enough people who are crazy like that and might be tempted to use it.

yeah, i know about the ease of brewing Sdrol. made some TNE 75 and TNE75+Sdrol 20 this week. holds surprisingly well at rather low Ba/BB as well (4/22 makes it hold at around 5°C or whatever my fridge temp is atm).

Might have to grab some Dbol raws at some point, or maybe look into that new guy (Venom labs I think) to see if he could make me a few vials of a custom mix. I know he has Sdrol and TNE raws laying around and is open to brewing with different oils (castor oil my beloved). I know he said he might have Trest E coming in, so I would def consider getting DHB and MENT E off my list, maybe I could add a few nice custom vials (50TNE 20Sdrol 25Dbol) of my very own frog juice to that order.
What could I call it?
I really like his vibe, and I am really considering going for some EU domestic sources for nice little treats lately, so his operation seems like a source worth considering for me. (not shilling/vouching tho, just thinking in text form)

yes please

 

[IndividualMan]

Castor oil helps quite a bit in holding these substances, don't know why but that's how it is.

because Castor is what actually flows through the veins of gods. The greeks just mislabeled it as ichor.