Test Undecanoate

[Tdeck81]

So I’ve been seeing Test U being mentioned more frequently. I’m currently using Test C but can understand why U sounds appealing. I don’t want this to turn into C vs E vs U, just want to compile some good info for people looking at this option, including myself.

Questions:

Does the carrier oil used have a huge impact on the saturation timeline? I’ve seen castor and MCT oils, probably others too.

Does the longer half life actually equate to less product being used long term? Seems too good to be true.

Anecdotal issues or benefits that you personally experienced? I want to hear it all. Thanks for humoring me.

 

[anon55]

I used it as TRT and in a cycle.
Yes, MCT vs castor oil makes a difference!
I used to like this ester but when my supplier was out of stock I switched to testosterone cypionate and I'm not going back to testosterone U. I'm way less bloated -or leaner- with test C. I couldn't say why but it looks like I'm not the only one who have seen that making the change

 

[Eddie.]

I'd never try test U. I think everyone here is able to pin more often than every 2 weeks. It's too unpredictable, takes forever to peak, takes forever to adjust dose, takes forever to clear out.

It serves only one purpose in my books, it could be useful to those who travel international a lot, don't have a TRT script and don't want to risk taking a vial with them. Other than that..come on, no one is that lazy or unable to do one shot with test D or two shots with C or E per week for completely stable levels.

And yes, absorption time and saturation varies between carrier oils. test U in MCT would be close to test D (just my guessing) while test U in castor requires a lot of time.

 

[Tdeck81]

I'm way less bloated -or leaner- with test C.

Interesting. I thought there would be less sides due to less level fluctuation. I have nothing to base that off of but I’m glad you mentioned it.

useful to those who travel international a lot, don't have a TRT script

I don’t travel a ton, but this is one reason why I wanted to have some on hand. Figuring I could go on vacation, or when cruising, and not worry about frequent injections.

 

[crispybacon!]

Interesting. I thought there would be less sides due to less level fluctuation. I have nothing to base that off of but I’m glad you mentioned it.

I don’t travel a ton, but this is one reason why I wanted to have some on hand. Figuring I could go on vacation, or when cruising, and not worry about frequent injections.

I like the idea, but wonder about the practical application. Like how would you time your transition from say C/E to U? Seems like it would be very difficult to work out.

 

[Tdeck81]

wonder about the practical application

Me too. I like all the technical stuff but in practice im not overly anal. Sometimes close enough gets it done. Im sure the steroid plotters would be a good place to get a rough plan in place.

At this point it’s only academic on my end. I know @Spaceman Spiff has a ton of experience and threads on the subject I’ve been actively reading through.

I typically start these threads not only for myself but to help others that share my curiosity.

 

[ChemBB]

I'd never try test U. I think everyone here is able to pin more often than every 2 weeks. It's too unpredictable, takes forever to peak, takes forever to adjust dose, takes forever to clear out.

It serves only one purpose in my books, it could be useful to those who travel international a lot, don't have a TRT script and don't want to risk taking a vial with them. Other than that..come on, no one is that lazy or unable to do one shot with test D or two shots with C or E per week for completely stable levels.

And yes, absorption time and saturation varies between carrier oils. test U in MCT would be close to test D (just my guessing) while test U in castor requires a lot of time.

This is basically my exact feels

I recommend Test U only to people who are terrified of pins or unable to consistently pin

Test Decanoate is the god tier ester IMO. Holds at 500mg/mL without PIP or solvents. More stable than E/C but not absurdly long like U where you can't adjust.

SubQ pinning also slows release, so my suggestion is ED or EOD pins of E/C/D in tiny volumes like 0.1-0.3ml

 

[Wombr]

I like the idea, but wonder about the practical application. Like how would you time your transition from say C/E to U? Seems like it would be very difficult to work out.

My thought process would be just like when using eq. Follow the curve and take less and less enanthate/cyp while the undecaonate builds up.

 

[Wombr]

This is basically my exact feels

I recommend Test U only to people who are terrified of pins or unable to consistently pin

Test Decanoate is the god tier ester IMO. Holds at 500mg/mL without PIP or solvents. More stable than E/C but not absurdly long like U where you can't adjust.

SubQ pinning also slows release, so my suggestion is ED or EOD pins of E/C/D in tiny volumes like 0.1-0.3ml

Have you brewed D? Might look into it, you make it sound pretty good. Currently doing ed shots for stable blood serum concentration, but always down for fewer shots or more stable levels.

 

[ChemBB]

Have you brewed D? Might look into it, you make it sound pretty good. Currently doing ed shots for stable blood serum concentration, but always down for fewer shots or more stable levels.

Yes, it holds in standard 2/20 BA BB if you're wondering

 

[Meanmachine_nl]

This is basically my exact feels

I recommend Test U only to people who are terrified of pins or unable to consistently pin

Test Decanoate is the god tier ester IMO. Holds at 500mg/mL without PIP or solvents. More stable than E/C but not absurdly long like U where you can't adjust.

SubQ pinning also slows release, so my suggestion is ED or EOD pins of E/C/D in tiny volumes like 0.1-0.3ml

How do people generally feel on Test D?
how is libido on it. I hear sometimes people complain that the longer a ester is the more they feel shit on it and have less libido and overall quality of life.

 

[Tdeck81]

always down for fewer shots or more stable levels.

Exactly this. Im fully on board with shooting for the most consistent levels reasonably possible. If I can achieve this with one shot a week, or every other, as opposed to daily injections, isn’t that a win? I also concede there are other considerations; side effects, overall ml/injection, scheduling with other compounds utilized.

I think some guys just enjoy the process of injecting daily, no shame. Even for me, to some degree, I feel like I’m being more active/focused on my goals. But Overall, I could care less, just a means to an end.

 

[Tdeck81]

Test Decanoate is the god tier ester IMO. Holds at 500mg/mL without PIP or solvents. More stable than E/C but not absurdly long like U where you can't adjust.

Interesting

 

[Psy-chonaut]

It serves only one purpose in my books, it could be useful to those who travel international a lot, don't have a TRT script and don't want to risk taking a vial with them. .

I Think a friend of mine is up for an experiment with test U.

He is away on work (Oil-platform) 3 weeks on, 2 weeks off - he uses E before he goes, but there is to much of a dip in the end of his workperiod, and he can not bring anything with him…

So I Think we are going to just frontload 750-1g U, and see How things play out for him, if this ester is a better option for him when he is away from home for approx 3 weeks…..

 

[Tdeck81]

see How things play out for him

Please check back in here too with an update. Perfect example of real world application

 

[Infernalmango]

I’m going to overlap my test e 150 a week into test u once a week at 160. Plotter has it looking like this

 

[Tdeck81]

Plotter has it looking like this

I’m no authority, but that doesn’t look like a big swing especially considering once a week dosing. Have you used test u in the past? I’ve read guys having different experiences with the various esters. Just curious

 

[Infernalmango]

I’m no authority, but that doesn’t look like a big swing especially considering once a week dosing. Have you used test u in the past? I’ve read guys having different experiences with the various esters. Just curious

Sorry I should have specified better, I’ll be overlapping the E with U for 3 weeks. But no Iv never used test U. Just seeing what it does to bloods/feels. This was plotted with test u being in mct oil as well.

 

[vapor77]

175mg Test U once a week. Keeps my levels very stable.

When I want to blast I just throw some Cyp on top of it.

Not sure why people are worried about adjusting dose with it as its just TRT. Set it and forget it.

For 'saturation time', start pinning it with your blast and by the time your done blasting its ready to go.

I brewed mine in Castor and its 350mg/ml so .5 once a week.

 

[Tdeck81]

Not sure why people are worried about adjusting dose with it as its just TRT. Set it and forget it.

Kind of what I’m trying to figure out. In a vacuum it seems like a great idea, but I thought there must be a kink somewhere. I don’t think it’s groundbreaking territory but was curious why more people aren’t doing it? Thanks for sharing your experience.