What did you inject today?

sure thats true. i dont suffer that much so far, thankfully. but my chest genetics is shit...
i can take all the gear, eat all the food and it still wont be good cause its vertically narrow or idk how to say it. it sucks.
I know what you mean, but then again, see Mike Sommerfeld, same type of chest as you describe and still a very good bodybuilder. Plus, that type of chest is easier to grow, so ... pros and cons, as with anything.
Only Arnold can have Arnold chest, lol, like two plates stuck on there.

PS. Then we have this guy :
View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DIRnjAQOC6j/
 
I know what you mean, but then again, see Mike Sommerfeld, same type of chest as you describe and still a very good bodybuilder. Plus, that type of chest is easier to grow, so ... pros and cons, as with anything.
Only Arnold can have Arnold chest, lol, like two plates stuck on there.

PS. Then we have this guy :
View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DIRnjAQOC6j/


well, thats still nice one. to check my log to see what i mean.. (insert smiling crying emoji)
 
well, thats still nice one. to check my log to see what i mean.. (insert smiling crying emoji)
I think most bodybuilders are crying inside when they see Caike's chest and shoulders, lol.
Also, when I read that some top guys in Classic have done an Olympia after 5 years in the gym...hard to even imagine.
 
Day 4.
20mg MENT
35mg Test
28mg decca

Decided not to be a pussy and do atleast a few more days of MENT before giving into anxiety.

Definitely stronger. I've been dieting for over a year and I've lost 34kg. My max bench was 110kg for 3. But due to not much gear, mental issues and dieting I've been weak as fuck and stuck at 80kgx5 for a while.

Just did a set of 90kgx8. I've gained 1.5kg of water weight since starting MENT. It definitely works but like most people say the sides are probably individual.

I've not noticed this much of an increase in strength before tho. I'm guessing it mainly hydraulic (moment arms due to larger muscle bellies due to sarcoplasmic hypertrophy).
 
No, because double standards, that only works for mentally ill people and women trying to abort, for regular men it's a different standard.

The passive aggressive high horse one, do not play coy. It might be justified if you were a top10 Olympia competitor, and even then it's a crap attitude.
Bodybuilding is only about the results, which do not directly translate from diet, training and dosages, there is a more important factor which seems to be taboo lately, and that is genetics. People with good genetics can have meh diets, train for fun and use traces of gear and still have good results. Regular folk might need higher doses and so on, I fail to see how judging based on dosing makes much sense.
But anyway, there, the only selfie I have, I don't take pics, I am shit at them and my phone is shit at them too, the plan is to take pics when I finally arrive at the desired look. That was some time ago, cruising on 200mg Test-E.
I'd say judging by your lack of hair your on more than 200mg of Test mate..

I do not need to be an Olympia competitor to make comments on another physique or their drug use.. I'm simply asking due to the amount off guys "claiming" these doses for some evidence..

All well and good telling people you put on 15-20lbs from whatever your running but theres never any evidence and the fact you try to blast me for asking this my friend.. I didn't ask for a photo of you cruising did I? That's all you dare post cos you must look terrible for your high doses no?

And if you really wanna play that genetics bullshit, it's the fact guys have an actual diet nailed in, train properly and consistently, use all the goodies not just illegal ones is reason they look better than guys blasting grams of gear with no idea how to train or diet.. Oh and guess what.. They post physique updates too
 
I'd say judging by your lack of hair your on more than 200mg of Test mate..

I do not need to be an Olympia competitor to make comments on another physique or their drug use.. I'm simply asking due to the amount off guys "claiming" these doses for some evidence..

All well and good telling people you put on 15-20lbs from whatever your running but theres never any evidence and the fact you try to blast me for asking this my friend.. I didn't ask for a photo of you cruising did I? That's all you dare post cos you must look terrible for your high doses no?

And if you really wanna play that genetics bullshit, it's the fact guys have an actual diet nailed in, train properly and consistently, use all the goodies not just illegal ones is reason they look better than guys blasting grams of gear with no idea how to train or diet.. Oh and guess what.. They post physique updates too
I'll bite. Reformed fatty. Was over 130kg a while back. Currently around 104kg. 6 foot 2
 

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I'd say judging by your lack of hair your on more than 200mg of Test mate..

I do not need to be an Olympia competitor to make comments on another physique or their drug use.. I'm simply asking due to the amount off guys "claiming" these doses for some evidence..

All well and good telling people you put on 15-20lbs from whatever your running but theres never any evidence and the fact you try to blast me for asking this my friend.. I didn't ask for a photo of you cruising did I? That's all you dare post cos you must look terrible for your high doses no?

And if you really wanna play that genetics bullshit, it's the fact guys have an actual diet nailed in, train properly and consistently, use all the goodies not just illegal ones is reason they look better than guys blasting grams of gear with no idea how to train or diet.. Oh and guess what.. They post physique updates too

180 lean is 81kg. my end goal is 85kg under 10% bf and maintain around 10-12% long term maybe. nor everybody wanna be as big as possible mate.
 
Sorry for making you guys cry.. I also thought this site was about harm prevention, not showing kids they can be 180 lean on 5G of gear
IDK man, most of the people on here pushing high doses are quite large (assuming normal/slightly above average genetics & drug response)
Mishka, Eddie, really anyone who has stuck around for more than a few months pushing high doses has a decent/good amount of mass to show for it.

Obviously there are outliers, like that one 19 year old who was pushing 2. something grams a week excluding orals with very little to show for it.

I agree, some of the people posting high doses and almost nothing else on this forum may be a bit irritating to someone who takes this as seriously as you do, especially since this is a harm reduction forum, as you said. But showing this hostility to the ones who stick around, post regular updates, logs and pics (while not even pushing doses I would consider THAT ridiculous) is a bit misguided.
 
IDK man, most of the people on here pushing high doses are quite large (assuming normal/slightly above average genetics & drug response)
Mishka, Eddie, really anyone who has stuck around for more than a few months pushing high doses has a decent/good amount of mass to show for it.

Obviously there are outliers, like that one 19 year old who was pushing 2. something grams a week excluding orals with very little to show for it.

I agree, some of the people posting high doses and almost nothing else on this forum may be a bit irritating to someone who takes this as seriously as you do, especially since this is a harm reduction forum, as you said. But showing this hostility to the ones who stick around, post regular updates, logs and pics (while not even pushing doses I would consider THAT ridiculous) is a bit misguided.

Sir, thank you for including me in the quite large individuals here but i don't think my dosages considered high. Currently i'm on my all time highest for injectables which is 1250mg total of test/eq/nandrolone and my all time highest total with orals included was 1gr of test/eq/npp and 400mg of anadrol for 4 weeks.

Mishka was pushing like my total mg in tren alone lol, i think he was something more than 4gr total.

Just to be clear. I don't have anything with those who push but i'm not there yet and i doubt i'll ever be.
 
Sir, thank you for including me in the quite large individuals here but i don't think my dosages considered high. Currently i'm on my all time highest for injectables which is 1250mg total of test/eq/nandrolone and my all time highest total with orals included was 1gr of test/eq/npp and 400mg of anadrol for 4 weeks.

Mishka was pushing like my total mg in tren alone lol, i think he was something more than 4gr total.

Just to be clear. I don't have anything with those who push but i'm not there yet and i doubt i'll ever be.
I could have sworn you had posted a previous cycle with 1.2gr, but no, thats the first one you did at these dosages. crazy what can be achieved
 
Sir, thank you for including me in the quite large individuals here but i don't think my dosages considered high. Currently i'm on my all time highest for injectables which is 1250mg total of test/eq/nandrolone and my all time highest total with orals included was 1gr of test/eq/npp and 400mg of anadrol for 4 weeks.

Mishka was pushing like my total mg in tren alone lol, i think he was something more than 4gr total.

Just to be clear. I don't have anything with those who push but i'm not there yet and i doubt i'll ever be.
Dosage is a subjective matter.

Some have tons of side effects, others none. You're telling me about the guy who takes 1g of Tren, ruling out the possibility that the product is real, and I believe it. I've known guys who use more than double without side effects (visual effects or other effects like increased blood pressure, water retention). The problem is something else: the real damage, generally to internal organs, usually occurs after years and years. A very young guy from my town, around 25/26 years old, is now using 3G Testo + 2G EQ + 150mg of Anadrol every day. He's doing very well externally, weighing 115kg, but who's to say it'll always be like this in a year?
 
and yet, your pronouns are fckin/massive. good job mate.

HAHAHA thanks brother, trying for more! Swole is the goal xD

I could have sworn you had posted a previous cycle with 1.2gr, but no, thats the first one you did at these dosages. crazy what can be achieved

Nah, but to be honest from my short time experience what matters most is the duration you're in peds and not that much the total milligrams per cycle. If you take a natty and you put him in 1gr for 6 months he won't have a better progress than have him in 500mg for 4 cycles over 2 years period. As time goes by i'm getting better and better and i very much doubt that the total load plays bigger role than consinstency and duration i'm on supraphysiological levels.

Technically i could have the same or very similar progress with less total mg but since i'm 37 i'm not planning to titrate slowly every year to push a considerably decent dosage when i'll approach 45-50. This better be the time i'll perma cruise and use just a tad more when it's needed.

Dosage is a subjective matter.

Some have tons of side effects, others none. You're telling me about the guy who takes 1g of Tren, ruling out the possibility that the product is real, and I believe it. I've known guys who use more than double without side effects (visual effects or other effects like increased blood pressure, water retention). The problem is something else: the real damage, generally to internal organs, usually occurs after years and years. A very young guy from my town, around 25/26 years old, is now using 3G Testo + 2G EQ + 150mg of Anadrol every day. He's doing very well externally, weighing 115kg, but who's to say it'll always be like this in a year?

I won't say you're wrong but personally i'm in my second year of gear usage although i'm 37. It's not that i'm doing it since my 20's, so the exposure till now is very minimal. I don't doubt Mishka's gear is legit, otherwise he would not be year round with a RHR of 105+ lol. Something triggers this and obviously it's the peds and tren mostly.
 
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