test/eq first timer

[MustardTyger]

I know everyone is different in what they would require for dosages, but how would 300mg test cyp / 150 Eq be to start with. Is that enough EQ to justify using it? maybe 16-20 weeks depending on bloods?

 

[Juicedhead]

the lowest i would personally run eq is 300mg. Its a great compound for me my body responds to it well but I have heard some people dont like it. Theres some things saying its hard on the kidneys. Its a poor mans primo imo.

 

[MustardTyger]

the lowest i would personally run eq is 300mg. Its a great compound for me my body responds to it well but I have heard some people dont like it. Theres some things saying its hard on the kidneys. Its a poor mans primo imo.

would primo be a better option if looking to lean bulk?

 

[Juicedhead]

yes. primo is the best injectable steroid for sure. Its hard to find right now as there is a shortage of raws im hearings. Im using eq this next cycle at 300mg.

 

[Juicedhead]

is this your first cycle?

 

[Psy-chonaut]

I know everyone is different in what they would require for dosages, but how would 300mg test cyp / 150 Eq be to start with. Is that enough EQ to justify using it? maybe 16-20 weeks depending on bloods?

So if this is your first cycle - drop the EQ or any add-ons....... 4-500mg test weekly and have some exemestane on hand, see how you react to a higher dose of test..... And Test is a much stronger compound then EQ

 

[ackmack78]

would primo be a better option if looking to lean bulk?

Primos super expensive right now and hard to find. I've always heard that EQ is more anabolic than primo. I've never run primo and I'm 7 weeks into my first run with EQ so can't comment on that. 300/150 is a good place to start in case eq kills your e2. But I'm not sure how anabolic it is at that low dose.

I'm only running 200 eq right now since 500 Test/250 EQ was too much e2 control for me. Had to go to 550/200. At that dose can't tell if it's doing much but I am progressing along with 200 deca. Hoping to see what it can do when I bump the test to 800 and EQ to 350-400

 

[MustardTyger]

is this your first cycle?

ya only been on trt. 120mg /wk

 

[MustardTyger]

So if this is your first cycle - drop the EQ or any add-ons....... 4-500mg test weekly and have some exemestane on hand, see how you react to a higher dose of test..... And Test is a much stronger compound then EQ

I've heard that running a compound that can help with e2 is "better" than having to use an AI, is that not true? i dont mind using just test, just read that and figured i was better off..

 

[Juicedhead]

I've heard that running a compound that can help with e2 is "better" than having to use an AI, is that not true? i dont mind using just test, just read that and figured i was better off..

it can be. Just depends on how you tolerate it and how much you convert to e2. For a first cycle id just ramp up the test to 4-500mg a week and see how you feel.

 

[MustardTyger]

it can be. Just depends on how you tolerate it and how much you convert to e2. For a first cycle id just ramp up the test to 4-500mg a week and see how you feel.

may just go this route, appreciate the reply's.

 

[Juicedhead]

may just go this route, appreciate the reply's.

of course. Any other questions you have I will answer.

 

[craigdt]

Here's my experience.

Im early on in my test + eq cycle.

Im enjoying it more than my test + primo cycle.

I just... feel better on eq (so far).

They are both very subtle/not noticeable.

The one thing I can actually feel a difference is the eq seems to provide better cardio capacity. I can breathe better, it seems.

I had good results with the primo, and I'll run it again, but im really enjoying eq right now.

 

[Psy-chonaut]

I've heard that running a compound that can help with e2 is "better" than having to use an AI, is that not true? i dont mind using just test, just read that and figured i was better off..

Not for your first run - Test is king and there is a reason for it, it will prob. be your best friend or enemy in higher doses - see and learn how you react to it.... before adding extras like another AAS.

If you you are unlucky you can get anxiety from higher amount test ( Bp related maybe ?) - but you can also get the anxiety from EQ...

Deal with one compund at a time, learn about it / and screen yourself, before adding the next.... If anything goes wrong then you know what to pull out/ lower the dose etc..

You may not need an Ai (do some bloodwork, you might not have any high E2 issues at all ?) = Exemestane is lipid friendly primo is not

 

[MustardTyger]

Not for your first run - Test is king and there is a reason for it, it will prob. be your best friend or enemy in higher doses - see and learn how you react to it.... before adding extras lika another AAS.

If you you are unlucky you can get anxiety from higher amount test ( Bp related maybe ?) - but you can also get the anxiety from EQ...

Deal with one compund at a time, learn about it / and screen yourself, before adding the next.... If anything goes wrong then you know what to pull out/ lower the dose etc..

You may not need an Ai (do some bloodwork, you might not have any high E2 issues at all ?) = is lipid friendly primo is not

thanks for the info. I do like this way of thinking, and understanding tolerable levels of the base first. You mention exemestane, but what are your thoughts on anastrozole? Asin vs Adex.. I have adex on had atm is there a big difference in these or am I ok with adex?

 

[Psy-chonaut]

So I am just a fan of exemestane, I've always used it, but I also have Adex and letro on hand....

You can use adex, if you need it, aswell - no worries......

 

[alan7890]

I’m early in to test e / eq 600 / 300 as someone mentioned I feel better on this than test / primo I’ve ran in the past.

Definitely feel the cardio benefits as well, going to give it a few more weeks then get bloods done.

I was a bit unsure to run eq having hearing horror stories of anxiety through the roof but everything’s been fine and feel great so far.

 

[TurdHerder]

Deal with one compund at a time, learn about it / and screen yourself, before adding the next.... If anything goes wrong then you know what to pull out/ lower the dose etc..

That’s some excellent advice!

 

[BabaJagga]

I've heard that running a compound that can help with e2 is "better" than having to use an AI, is that not true? i dont mind using just test, just read that and figured i was better off..

500 test + ai, simple, easy.
happy, horny, hungry and growing like weed. you are gonna like it.

i went with aromasin...

 

[MustardTyger]

of course. Any other questions you have I will answer.

Hey, I attached my bloodwork I recently did. This is on 120mg test TRT 1x a week for about 7 weeks. With my E2 near the top of the shown range do you think if i were to bump it to 400mg (200mg x2 /week), that I should start with some sort of AI or not? I could only assume I'd be way over going up that big a difference..