What is your opinion on Vigorous Steve?

Personally I like him a lot. Seems to have good knowledge and is at the forefront of subjects like mitochondrial optimization.
That guy with glasses, Dr. Den, one time was about to say something 'new' and Steve was like "no, no, save it to after the stream". Obviously he knows very smart guys.
Overall gives good advice. Best upgrade since Derek's 'retirement'.
 
Kurt havens has been saying that primo is just a way to get more out of your test + look sick, he is consistent with his takes imo. Correct? maybe, maybe not. Consistent, definitely.
both low dose test + primo and low dose + eq has helped me build more muscle than low dose test.

also both kinda gives a shredded look. 6 weeks into eq with frontload and i get typical steroid veins but they're not popping like they would on tren full obvious not natural. same thing happens with primo around week 3-4
 
I appreciate his deep dives where he actually goes through the references of studies that were done on the compounds he's discussing. Unfortunately, as a full time YouTuber it's not possible to churn out quality material all the time and some of the vids aren't my favorite. I like the discussions with Kurt Havens and Dean St. Mart.
 
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