Please stop saying Anavar is a mild drug…

[Banana Joe]

No-one limited this topic to a certain age bracket....fine to focus a subset of the convo on that...but you didn't ask or propose a theory...just acted like his citation was inappropriate, which it is not....

I am not sure if I can follow you here.
The context of this thread is taking Anavar at high, or rather really high (100mg) doses, because then it is presumably not a mild drug.
The abstract doesn't mention the Var doses, but if I had to guess were are probably talking about 2.5-5mg ed, let's be very generous and say 10mg.

So let me ask this time: Do you think that a study, about obese 40-60 old men with very low t, is appropriate in this context?

Also, in these studies how the participants eat is rarely if ever controled, so could the lowered visceral fat simply be caused by Var (and oral) killing their appetite a bit, where as they feel better on the injectables and therefore eat a tad more? Can you rule that out with certainty?
At least the abstract doesn't mention anything, that would make me rule out my just proposed theory.

 

[setters]

I really can’t tell if these new accounts are some form of spam bots all asking the same stupid questions usually about anavar in a first cycle. I don’t have the social media apps but I’m guessing these influencers are pushing anavar?

There’s plenty of information on this board about anavar and the other major compounds but just for the kids reading this…

Anavar is in no way shape or form mild. It will destroy your lipid profile and can damage your kidneys. I’ve seen labs where ldl went to 250+ and HDL to single digits after 3 weeks of use. I’ve seen cystatin C rise significantly from a short cycle of 50 mg daily. Yes women take it. Yes it’s given to burn victims. Yes it’s used medicinally. That doesn’t make it mild. This idea of running it for long periods of time at low dosages is also asinine as it ignores the area under the curve. If anything, competitors are right to blast their orals for 3 weeks pre contest then stop immediately. There is so much smoke being blown up anavar’s ass regarding fat loss and safety that is either entirely untrue or vastly overblown.

There's a rather large difference between taking 50mg daily and the amounts that are actually studied and considered 'safe."

 

[vegetable69]

What's wrong with anabolic doc?

 

[adrenalytic]

What's wrong with anabolic doc?

He's cringey af to watch. Knows fuckall about anything beyond test and his guests are basically just as clueless so when they say dumb shit he doesn't have the knowledge to call them out on it.

 

[cousinmuscles]

He's cringey af to watch. Knows fuckall about anything beyond test and his guests are basically just as clueless so when they say dumb shit he doesn't have the knowledge to call them out on it.

There is a lot of information you can get from him though. There is nothing "cycle advice" like in his channel.

 

[vegetable69]

He's cringey af to watch. Knows fuckall about anything beyond test and his guests are basically just as clueless so when they say dumb shit he doesn't have the knowledge to call them out on it.

Didn't really notice that, I've watched a few of his videos and they seemed to pretty informative without any odd claims thrown in. I don't watch a lot of him though, I much prefer Vigorous Steve

 

[RockyP]

Gentlemen.

Forgive my mea culpa. I forgot about this thread but just popped up on my list.

First and foremost, as many of you have pointed out so pointedly, I was wrong I stating that anavar is not mild. I think I lost the forest from the trees in that while there can be SIGNIFICANT lipid perturbations and also kidney issues in some folks using anavar, on balance and when compared to the other orals, it is most definitely mild. My intention (missed the mark on this horribly) was to dissuade or at least encourage further research by newbies, HRT+ bros, and other folks dabbling in this game from just tossing it in to their cycles as if it were creatine, running it at higher dosages and for much longer than is safe. Nobody talks about running 5 mg of anadrol for months on end. And I don’t see the benefit of doing that with anabar either. Run it at a good dose for a moderate timeframe then come off. I see lots of people messing about with long cycles and it makes little sense. My thoughts were that they were doing this because they think it’s mild (which it is, but not harmless).

So. Not that anyone gives a damn but if I could go back in time I’d alter the title of this thread as “stop saying anavar is harmless.” It is mild…ish

 

[ChemBB]

On that note, here's labs from 8 years of mostly-continuous Var + Tren use in a female

Thread 'Female Bloods: 8 years of Var + Tren'

Oct 21, 2025

Wanted to show bloodwork from a female who has been using Anavar consistently for the past 8 years.
Tren E @ 30mg for the majority of the last 4-5 years, with a small number of few-months break.

There were periods of Dbol use, as well as an Sdrol experiment, but in general it was Tren + Var, or just Tren.
About 2/3rds of the time on Tren, Anavar was run @ 20-35mg.

Recently, Test E @ 25mg E5D + E2 Cyp @ 5mg E5D was added, and Tren was removed in July.

• Test E 25mg E5D
• E2 Cyp 5mg E5D
• Var 25mg

You'll notice some of the usual AAS markers below are out-of-range.
Mildly high...

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[RockyP]

On that note, here's labs from 8 years of mostly-continuous Var + Tren use in a female

Thread 'Female Bloods: 8 years of Var + Tren'

Oct 21, 2025

Wanted to show bloodwork from a female who has been using Anavar consistently for the past 8 years.
Tren E @ 30mg for the majority of the last 4-5 years, with a small number of few-months break.

There were periods of Dbol use, as well as an Sdrol experiment, but in general it was Tren + Var, or just Tren.
About 2/3rds of the time on Tren, Anavar was run @ 20-35mg.

Recently, Test E @ 25mg E5D + E2 Cyp @ 5mg E5D was added, and Tren was removed in July.

• Test E 25mg E5D
• E2 Cyp 5mg E5D
• Var 25mg

You'll notice some of the usual AAS markers below are out-of-range.
Mildly high...

• ChemBB
• Replies: 64
• Forum: Serum Blood Testing

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That’s what I’d expect. Dyslipidemia, but relatively mild given the dosage. I think running 2.5 to 5 mg daily may well Not trash lipids but I think that dosage is a waste of time even for a woman. Though HDL holding up nicely. However if it were being run at the more common 50 mg dosage those numbers would be a bit worse, in line with what we see in labs of folks running 50 of anavar. Not great to have those lipids numbers for 8 years in a row. Easily corrected by adding a statin. I’m running 20 mg pre workout a few days per week now along with my primo and test. Curious to see how the Zetia and pita hold Up against that stack. Even at 245 lbs I get a nice benefit from 20 mg. I’ll prob take it up closer to 40 to see if there’s any significant benefit. But if not I’ll stay on the low side with my “lady anavar” as some vendors do callously refer to it

 

[Biggerp73]

An oral only cycle can make sense for someone who is new or who is not committed to being on forever primarily because the short half life means easier testicular recovery when you come off. You might even be able to run an oral 3 days per week for a couple months and not have any significant shutdown at all. That sort of thing could be a very easy way for a natural to max out his genetical potential and bypass the 5-10 years it would otherwise normally take him to get there.

There are a million ways to skin a cat and I would discourage guys who have only been experimenting with and studying steroids for a couple of years to walk around with strong opinions about things. Give it a couple decades of trying everything under the sun, and then you’ll realize you don’t really know much

 

[RockyP]

An oral only cycle can make sense for someone who is new or who is not committed to being on forever primarily because the short half life means easier testicular recovery when you come off. You might even be able to run an oral 3 days per week for a couple months and not have any significant shutdown at all. That sort of thing could be a very easy way for a natural to max out his genetical potential and bypass the 5-10 years it would otherwise normally take him to get there.

There are a million ways to skin a cat and I would discourage guys who have only been experimenting with and studying steroids for a couple of years to walk around with strong opinions about things. Give it a couple decades of trying everything under the sun, and then you’ll realize you don’t really know much

That is if you make it a few decades….

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

So. Not that anyone gives a damn but if I could go back in time I’d alter the title of this thread as “stop saying anavar is harmless.” It is mild…ish

Just to be frank,

The problem from was definitely you being arrogant and not posting evidence.

 

[dinfar1337]

Just to be frank,

The problem from was definitely you being arrogant and not posting evidence.

its like we got a new mini ghoul

but instead of just being in denial and arrogant 24/7. this idiot dosent have the ai to back his retarded claims, just speaking straight out of his ass

 

[RockyP]

Just to be frank,

The problem from was definitely you being arrogant and not posting evidence.

There is plenty of evidence of lipid abnormalities from Anavar use. It’s a guarantee. If you let that run unabated you’re laying down plaque in your arteries. Not harmless. There was a member who posted about kidney issues he had from anavar use. Mild but not harmless. If you are so thin skinned that you perceive an online post as “arrogant” and get all bent out of shape idk what to tell you brother.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

There is plenty of evidence of lipid abnormalities from Anavar use. It’s a guarantee. If you let that run unabated you’re laying down plaque in your arteries. Not harmless. There was a member who posted about kidney issues he had from anavar use. Mild but not harmless. If you are so thin skinned that you perceive an online post as “arrogant” and get all bent out of shape idk what to tell you brother.

I am not thin skinned about it, why would I be when you are speaking nonsense? You were mentioning kidney issues.

You are proving how much of a dumb fuck you are here.

Not only are you a new person here but you fail to post actual literature. The basis of your argument is n=1.


Get the fuck out of here.