What do you think?

[BingoBangoBongo]

What’s up so I’ve been debating AAS use for nearly 15 years. I’m now in my early 30s and I feel it is time to do my first cycle.

I’ve always been up and down with my weight, I played football my whole life and was very good. After school ended I blew up and got fat as shit. Hopped on ghrp 6 and then 2 if I recall correctly in that order, I also used cjc w dac during this time and lost a ton of weight. Let myself go in the many years after then lost the weight yet again without help. Gained it again and now I’m almost 2 months into Reta, down over 30 lbs already and sit around 225 I’d guess, 230 last I stepped on a scale about 12 days ago.

My question is should I wait to get down to a more reasonable body fat percentage before I start test? I’m 6 foot tall. Definitely high body fat but carry my weight extremely well, everyone tells me I’m not fat but I certainly am. I once experimented with some lgd 6 years ago and was around this weight, experienced some sensitive nips after about 4 weeks and immediately took some arimidex quit and started Nolva and avoided gyno. As soon as I started feeling that sensitivity I took arimidex and it stopped immediately.

I’m just worried about excess aromatization at my body fat percentage. I plan to start around 125mg a week and push it to 200-250 once I get a feel for how my body is reacting. I dread pinning eod and hoping I can get away with 2x a week. What do y’all think?

 

[BabaJagga]

if you wanna keep poking yourself with needle for long time, i guess you could start low, like 250mg test, continue to lose weight, keep reta in and when you reach your desired bf% just up the mg's and grow.

 

[BingoBangoBongo]

if you wanna keep poking yourself with needle for long time, i guess you could start low, like 250mg test, continue to lose weight, keep reta in and when you reach your desired bf% just up the mg's and grow.

The Reta injections are painless and I do 2x a week to keep levels more stable. I just worry about using a harpoon more than 2x a week lol with the test. But with all my research over the years I really should pin test e 3x a week to keep estradiol at bay. I’m just wondering the smallest gauge I can get away with and be able to push the oil through….? My insulin syringes (I use for Reta, not diabetic) certainly are too narrow and not long enough for my body fat lol I just dread using a harpoon

 

[Rand]

Erm

If you gain weight easily

Why do you need steroids

What's the diets that got you fat? Just out of curiosity.

 

[BabaJagga]

The Reta injections are painless and I do 2x a week to keep levels more stable. I just worry about using a harpoon more than 2x a week lol with the test. But with all my research over the years I really should pin test e 3x a week to keep estradiol at bay. I’m just wondering the smallest gauge I can get away with and be able to push the oil through….? My insulin syringes (I use for Reta, not diabetic) certainly are too narrow and not long enough for my body fat lol I just dread using a harpoon

what i mean is long time use of test. if you wanna short blast and then not use test, its not ideal scenario to go for if you are high bf%.
if you decide that you are okay with using test long term, possibly for life, then why not. start low, around trt-ish levels and cut.

ive tried to bulk on 500 test when not lean and it wasnt good idea.

 

[BingoBangoBongo]

Erm

If you gain weight easily

Why do you need steroids

What's the diets that got you fat? Just out of curiosity.

Just pure overeating junk and alcohol, I go through phases of being a total lazy pos and then realizing I gotta change something and switch to absolute strict clean eating counting calories and exercising. I’ve bounced from 175-280 a few times, lost 100 lbs twice. My main reason for wanting to use AAS is when I get down to 180 I look great by most people’s standards but not how I want. I have trouble being as muscular/strong at 180 as I am at 230. 180 im in “good” shape but can’t hold onto muscle like when I’m 210-220. Im not skinny fat at 180 but I’m also not ripped. My body wants to be 200-215 and with AAS I feel like I could look insane at 190-215. Also my short stint with lgd a while ago blew my mind, I was so fucking strong so fast lol. So I want to go all the way this time and do it right

 

[wells14]

If your bodyfat is high, get in shape first before considering gear. Once you're pretty lean (~10%bf), get your diet, training, sleep, etc, all dialled then go ahead with your current plan if bloodwork is fine. If your natural testosterone is already mid-high, you're probably fine starting on a bit more than 125mg/wk. You can definitely get away pinning less frequently if you use longer esters. Plenty of people use Cyp once a week and do just fine. Also, if you're lean enough you don't need to use harpoons to pin IM. I use half inch 30g needles.

 

[Rand]

I see alcohol

Gotta get rid of that as first step

Roids, gh, peps useless with liquor

Especially gh

Liver too busy handling garbage man duties

Don't let your liver be a garbageman

 

[BingoBangoBongo]

what i mean is long time use of test. if you wanna short blast and then not use test, its not ideal scenario to go for if you are high bf%.
if you decide that you are okay with using test long term, possibly for life, then why not. start low, around trt-ish levels and cut.

ive tried to bulk on 500 test when not lean and it wasnt good idea.

Yeah I don’t plan on blasting hard at this bf. For that exact reason. I’m not opposed to trt for life but I feel like I can get away with a total body recomp cycle at my age. I plan on cruising for as long as it takes for me to get to my ideal bf and “look”. Doing an intensive pct and seeing how I feel and look after it’s all said and done. I don’t plan on doing 12 weeks, more like 24-36 weeks possibly as I get closer to my ideal bf up the dose…a lot lol. But I do plan to come off atleast once. I want to have children with my lady in about 2 years and plan on doing everything to get my fertility back(hcg,hmg among a bunch of other shit). I worry my fertility is pretty shit to begin with though, I’ve gotten 2 women pregnant and they both had miscarriages and the older I get the more I wonder if the blame for that is my fertility, who knows. I won’t be heart broken if I’m not able to have kids lol but I’d like to

 

[BingoBangoBongo]

I see alcohol

Gotta get rid of that as first step

Roids, gh, peps useless with liquor

Especially gh

Liver too busy handling garbage man duties

Don't let your liver be a garbageman

Right I don’t drink anymore. I’m on the health kick again, I don’t do shit. I don’t have plans on starting gh or secretagoges, I feel at my age it’s not quite needed. Although with some of the prices I’ve seen in gh I have thought about it, especially on Reta. With its glucose control

 

[BingoBangoBongo]

If your bodyfat is high, get in shape first before considering gear. Once you're pretty lean (~10%bf), get your diet, training, sleep, etc, all dialled then go ahead with your current plan if bloodwork is fine. If your natural testosterone is already mid-high, you're probably fine starting on a bit more than 125mg/wk. You can definitely get away pinning less frequently if you use longer esters. Plenty of people use Cyp once a week and do just fine. Also, if you're lean enough you don't need to use harpoons to pin IM. I use half inch 30g needles.

You don’t have trouble pushing that oil through?

 

[wells14]

You don’t have trouble pushing that oil through?

With a 1ml syringe its fine. Takes about 25sec to push 1ml of oil. I've tried 29g/30g needles with 2.5ml & 3ml syringes and its almost impossible so I use 25g with those. Probably depends on the oil & compound as well. The stuff I use is pretty thin.

 

[BingoBangoBongo]

With a 1ml syringe its fine. Takes about 25sec to push 1ml of oil. I've tried 29g/30g needles with 2.5ml & 3ml syringes and its almost impossible so I use 25g with those. Probably depends on the oil & compound as well. The stuff I use is pretty thin.

Right I mean my Reta is “easy” to push but it’s essentially only water and does take some effort but is quick(1 second), so my imagination of oil through that same needle seems like it’d be difficult. I plan on getting 500mg/ml and only having to pin less than a ml. I hope to be able to use my current needles. I guess we’ll find out. I’ll probably hold off to atleast 200 lbs. which with this Reta isn’t that far away.

 

[wells14]

500mg/ml

That's a very high concentration for test. It will definitely sting. Higher concentrations always have way more PIP and are more likely to use sketchy solvents. Stick to 250, 300 max for test.

 

[BingoBangoBongo]

I just worry that I’m losing muscle fast right now. I’m up to 4mg a week Reta and I can still get my protein and calories in but it’s a constant effort. It’s my first go with glp 1s and people say Reta’s hunger suppression isn’t as strong as tirz but I wouldn’t know! The hunger suppression is major, and the “time till full” when eating is so fucking low. I could literally eat 1k a day or less and wouldn’t even notice it. Of course I don’t eat that little but sometimes I’ll reach dinner and think “what did I eat today?” And the answer is nothing lol. Then I have to force feed protein which is hard on Reta.

 

[BingoBangoBongo]

That's a very high concentration for test. It will definitely sting. Higher concentrations always have way more PIP and are more likely to use sketchy solvents. Stick to 250, 300 max for test.

Ah I see, I think primal has 400 no?

 

[BingoBangoBongo]

Looking again primal has 400 test c and 500 test e but both are out of stock

 

[Rand]

Right I don’t drink anymore. I’m on the health kick again, I don’t do shit. I don’t have plans on starting gh or secretagoges, I feel at my age it’s not quite needed. Although with some of the prices I’ve seen in gh I have thought about it, especially on Reta. With its glucose control

You not drinking is already a great start

Can i point you to Alex Kikel? The peptide coach?

I mean if you want great results, you need great coach.

Like I'm not even your weight class,.man

 

[BingoBangoBongo]

You not drinking is already a great start

Can i point you to Alex Kikel? The peptide coach?

I mean if you want great results, you need great coach.

Like I'm not even your weight class,.man

I’m familiar with him and with a million other online peptide/AAS media people. I’ve watched every single mpmds, vigorous Steve, chase etcs videos. I’m not looking to do any peptides really other than my Reta. I’m much more focused on my first test cycle

 

[Rand]

I’m familiar with him and with a million other online peptide/AAS media people. I’ve watched every single mpmds, vigorous Steve, chase etcs videos. I’m not looking to do any peptides really other than my Reta. I’m much more focused on my first test cycle

That's just the channel

He can advise the aas part just as well