Lobster HGH no vacuum - fridge vs no fridge test

[Sampei]

I suppose the only thing that would make this experiment even better would be a control sample with a vacuum.

Although they would have to be from the same batch to be a good control so it might be impossible to obtain.

You didn't read.. I have kept two vials with vacuum from the same exact kit

We have.

2 vials with vacuum
4 vials without vacuum divided in 2 in the fridge and 2 at room temperature

 

[Sera]

You didn't read.. I have kept two vials with vacuum from the same exact kit

We have.

2 vials with vacuum
4 vials without vacuum divided in 2 in the fridge and 2 at room temperature

My bad, that’s great

 

[deadbeef]

I'm in. Where are we doing the analysis and how much?

Ghoul right now:

 

[brutalbuilt]

waiting for results

 

[TallandSmall]

Has this actually been sent to Jano? @Sampei @TheLobster

 

[TallandSmall]

Has this actually been sent to Jano? @Sampei @TheLobster

@Sampei just saw your post in the vendor thread right after posting this. Thanks for sending!

 

[ZaddyZonar]

Has this actually been sent to Jano? @Sampei @TheLobster

Just landed at jano, was updated in Lobsters thread

 

[Sampei]

Janoshik Analytical

Fridge + Vacuum - AB
Fridge + No Vacuum - CD
No Fridge + Vacuum - EF
No Fridge + No Vacuum - GH

Results are out
Enjoy and thank you to @TheLobster for funding the test

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Waiting for @Ghoul to respond


Now we have real data collection dude. Lololol.

Going to report me for harassment when this experiment was set in motion so long ago

Hahaha.

Come on guys. Search engines are great but we can do experiments and get some real info. We have the ability to learn.

Oxidation is undoubtedly a cause of peptide degradation, so yes.

How much, how quickly is another matter, but it's definately worse than it would be with vacuum.

-Worst posted results EVER from this vendor,

-Significant deterioration in a very short period of time. This is exactly how oxygen damaged rHGH manifests. Greater instability compared to vacuum sealed or gas protected product.

Nearly 2% drop in purity and massive jump in dimer vs original results from just weeks before.

For those who bought numerous kits, is there some reason to believe it won't continue deteriorating at this rate? Of course not.

Now I'll let the shills go back to pretending they'd buy 95% purity UGL GH with dimer, vacuum means nothing, and love it, while they quietly get paid off in the background...

He said it's just a vial, gotta test them all, etc


Better yet @Ghoul

How about you put some money for testing a 100 dollar serostim vial form my same batch with air exchange so it's exposed to oxygen?

Lets see the degradation?

Or are you too scared to be wrong?

You and your buddies attacked me for telling the guy who got vacuumless HGH that if he was going to use it, filtering would ensure sterility and reduce the aggregates created in degraded HGH.

That's all I said. Not a word about this vendor, and it was enough to set off your army of shills, and then that fool @TheLobster decided to mimic your insults.

So @Spaceman Spiff , this really leaves just one question. Did you quietly cut a deal with @TheLobster to have all 50 kits of that trash rHGH replaced, or will you be getting some money back and just push that shit onto others telling them "It's fine, don't worry about vacuum."?

Shouldn't everyone who got (and will get) vials without vacuum be entitled to replacements or refunds too, or is that reserved for shills who carry water for vendors selling defective products?

If it turns out vacuumless hGH shows signs of serious degradation, as you're clearly implying here in large font, yes.

Do you have some secret results? If so, why are you holding them back? Or just wait until Lobster posts. Until then we don't know. Chill.

 

[Sera]

Room temp and no vacuum does seem more degraded no? Even room temp with vacuum seems fine.

 

[Drtonybig]

So tldr? Hgh is not as fragile as previously thought?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Room temp and no vacuum does seem more degraded no? Even room temp with vacuum seems fine.

vacuum vs no vacuum is not the same batch.

the degradation is neglible.

If there was real degradation, I would say 92% or below at this point.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Janoshik Analytical

Fridge + Vacuum - AB
Fridge + No Vacuum - CD
No Fridge + Vacuum - EF
No Fridge + No Vacuum - GH

Results are out
Enjoy and thank you to @TheLobster for funding the test

Waiting for @Ghoul to respond


Now we have real data collection dude. Lololol.

Going to report me for harassment when this experiment was set in motion so long ago

Hahaha.

Come on guys. Search engines are great but we can do experiments and get some real info. We have the ability to learn.

Hahaha vacuum + fridge had the highest dimer

 

[Drtonybig]

Hahaha vacuum + fridge had the highest dimer

Which means nothing

 

[Sampei]

vacuum vs no vacuum is not the same batch.

the degradation is neglible.

If there was real degradation, I would say 92% or below at this point.

It's all from the same batch.

 

[AlexDavis43]

So tldr? Hgh is not as fragile as previously thought?

Room temp and no vacuum does seem more degraded no? Even room temp with vacuum seems fine.

That's the thing.... they all look pretty good

 

[readalot]

It's all from the same batch.

Thank you for clearly calling this out.

I have kept two vials with vacuum from the same exact kit

 

[B Ware]

Not really surprised on the no vacuum since serostim doesn’t have a vacuum.

Very informative testing!

 

[BigDadd7]

I guess I'll continue to store my gh in a dark box.

 

[readalot]

Not really surprised on the no vacuum since serostim doesn’t have a vacuum.

What gas is in the headspace of a Serostim vial?