I’ll spoil it for you.. doesn’t exist.
Plan looks good. I would not use MK however. Apart from that seems pretty sensible.
Don’t forget your cardio.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
My Planned Cycle for Fall/Winter 2025
- Thread starter IndividualMan
- Start date
Plan looks good. I would not use MK however. Apart from that seems pretty sensible.
Don’t forget your cardio.
IndividualMan
Member
Just got word that i need a few minor surgeries (wisdom teeth, removing some screws from my leg/knee, removing some metal from my upper leg) due to rising infection risk.
These will be done over the Summer, and depending on how well they heal, they will Influence the starting point of this Cycle.
I will prepare by getting some BPC/TB500 mix and some GH for the recovery from the surgeries, would appreciate dosing advice/tips for said recovery.
Will probably lose a few kgs of muscle mass (1-3 maybe, it is usually something like that) and gain a little fat, making my starting point worse and worsening my leg imbalances.
Would love some advice on recovery protocols/GH dosing for recovery.
These will be done over the Summer, and depending on how well they heal, they will Influence the starting point of this Cycle.
I will prepare by getting some BPC/TB500 mix and some GH for the recovery from the surgeries, would appreciate dosing advice/tips for said recovery.
Will probably lose a few kgs of muscle mass (1-3 maybe, it is usually something like that) and gain a little fat, making my starting point worse and worsening my leg imbalances.
Would love some advice on recovery protocols/GH dosing for recovery.
Biggerp73
Member
Test @ 750mg for the entire duration would yield better results than what you have planned imo
Keep it simple, eat as much protein as you can force feed, train with intensity
IndividualMan
Member
lick my balls, HCT down @ 49 currently
IndividualMan
Member
Alright, The cycle is on.
Recapping Stats:
Height: 184.something cm
Weight: 82 Kilos dry
Type 1 Diabetic
IQ: 2 standard deviations below mean
Recap done
After my frontload of 450 EQ (first shot of EQ was not my own stuff, everything used form then on is brewed by yours truly) and 450 Test D
I will continue with
150Test D (.5ml TestD300+EQ300mix)
150EQ (.5ml of TestD300+EQ300mix)
110 Test C (.5ml of TestC220)
split into M/W/F injections of .5mls
Bloods are great, HCT is around 50, RBC is a bit low but in range, Cystatin C and Creatinin are still on the high end but still within range. Liver markers are alright (pretty dang low after a training pause), I will not be testing them unless i have to throw in DBOL to save my E2. Same thing for CRP and TNE. will not test unless i need some quick E2.
BP meds are on hand. Enalapril as well (for decreased RBC).
from here on out I will do Bloodwork every 8-10 weeks,
and up the dosages every 8-10 weeks as well.
260Test+150Eq 8 weeks
->
445Test+225EQ 10 weeks
->
520 Test +300 EQ 10 weeks
at this point I will run labs to determine if i can run the last dosage for another 12 weeks, end it with some orals, or slowly let it fizzle out (go cold turkey for 3-4 weeks and resume a cruise of .75mls TestC220/week afterwards)
Training is a U/L split specifically,
Upper/Lower Rest, U/L/U Rest
Lower/Upper Rest, L/U/L Rest
which helps me go harder than my old split (a mix of U/L and P/P/L)
Diet will be a slight Cal deficit (2100) for the next 8 weeks, because my cut still is not fully done (veins are not continously visible from hand to center of chest, Quad Veins are also puny)
after that, I will up the Calories to 3100 (300 above maintenance) over the course of 2 weeks, and up the food a tiny bit everytime progress stalls.
No pics because I have some markings on both torso and legs which make me easily identifiable IRL, hope you understand.
Any feedback is appreciated, as long as it isn't some looksmaxx bullshit.
Have a great Day.
Recapping Stats:
Height: 184.something cm
Weight: 82 Kilos dry
Type 1 Diabetic
IQ: 2 standard deviations below mean
Recap done
After my frontload of 450 EQ (first shot of EQ was not my own stuff, everything used form then on is brewed by yours truly) and 450 Test D
I will continue with
150Test D (.5ml TestD300+EQ300mix)
150EQ (.5ml of TestD300+EQ300mix)
110 Test C (.5ml of TestC220)
split into M/W/F injections of .5mls
Bloods are great, HCT is around 50, RBC is a bit low but in range, Cystatin C and Creatinin are still on the high end but still within range. Liver markers are alright (pretty dang low after a training pause), I will not be testing them unless i have to throw in DBOL to save my E2. Same thing for CRP and TNE. will not test unless i need some quick E2.
BP meds are on hand. Enalapril as well (for decreased RBC).
from here on out I will do Bloodwork every 8-10 weeks,
and up the dosages every 8-10 weeks as well.
260Test+150Eq 8 weeks
->
445Test+225EQ 10 weeks
->
520 Test +300 EQ 10 weeks
at this point I will run labs to determine if i can run the last dosage for another 12 weeks, end it with some orals, or slowly let it fizzle out (go cold turkey for 3-4 weeks and resume a cruise of .75mls TestC220/week afterwards)
Training is a U/L split specifically,
Upper/Lower Rest, U/L/U Rest
Lower/Upper Rest, L/U/L Rest
which helps me go harder than my old split (a mix of U/L and P/P/L)
Diet will be a slight Cal deficit (2100) for the next 8 weeks, because my cut still is not fully done (veins are not continously visible from hand to center of chest, Quad Veins are also puny)
after that, I will up the Calories to 3100 (300 above maintenance) over the course of 2 weeks, and up the food a tiny bit everytime progress stalls.
No pics because I have some markings on both torso and legs which make me easily identifiable IRL, hope you understand.
Any feedback is appreciated, as long as it isn't some looksmaxx bullshit.
Have a great Day.
Sounds a Lot better gj
eery
Member
i would the titration of the EQ, it takes 6-8 weeks to build up anyway.
IndividualMan
Member
you would what the titration? skip it?
It takej long to Build up on its Own that what he ment so you can use dose u want and it will “self titrate”
Slowww
Member
How do you like thr UL stuff?That has been really in style recently, what parts do you think make it preferable to another kind of split?
dinfar1337
New Member
if you can tolerate it, i would do something like 150test trt > 200 test 100 eq 4 weeks > 250test 150 eq 4 weeks > 300 test 200 eq 4 weeks.
gains are superior with more unstable hormone levels constantly tiltrating up, every week would be preferred but you dont have the end dosage for that and every 4 weeks
little 100 total aas load constantly will keep giving you new power to push through old limits and your skin dont flare as much up as going from +100 vs +350 out of the blue.
most guys i know tilrate by 100 a week but you're not really playing with short esters here so it dosent matter that much.
i would just run 260test 150eq as long as i notice im growing in size and add more when im not growing as fast. if that would be my first dosage for the whole cycle that would be ok and if i need to tiltrate higher than end dosage in first 4 weeks that would also be ok
IndividualMan
Member
for me personally, I can just go really hard every session, hit most muscle groups for 4-6 good sets, and dont feel fatigue accumulating over the weeks.
Usually I need a good 3-4 nonstop rest days every 6-8 weeks because I just feel so beat up, and sometimes I feel myself not being able to give 100% every session.
On U/L/R/U/L/U/R to L/U/R/L/U/L/R I can really get the most out of every session. My progress has never been this linear, I have clear pinning days, that do not hinder my progress via PIP, it is wonderful.
I can program my workouts in a way to really look after my weaknesses ( Triceps, hams, chest) and hit them frequently enough to see steady visual changes as well as strength increases about biweekly (on cycle the progress might be session by session, who knows). Also, I can pay proper attention to my weaker/scarred leg, due to the frequent leg training. I usually prioritized my Upper body (back specifically) over every other group, which I can't really do on UL (so no skipping legs/cheating myself out of leg days).
I feel like UL is just a great way to keep yourself accountable and not lose view of the most important thing in Bodybuilding, which is balance.
dinfar1337
New Member
i used it to go from 60kg>105/110kg bench when i was a new lifter, and then the stimulus werent enough for me anymore. it was super fast tho, new pr every 2-3 days. i did higher volume than today science nerds standards but fell in a range of 4-6 sets ish per muscle per workout
solid split for most people under 80-90kg lean i would say. you as 105kg and as strong as you're it will not be good for you
IndividualMan
Member
same scenario here, hopefully I can also go up to mid 90kgs lean in 2-3 years with this program (and a few well planned cycles). My bench is pretty weak as well (compared to my BW, heavy working sets are barely 1.15xBW)
I really hope I can milk this split for a long time. I just love how it feels.
dinfar1337
New Member
haha
my bench have only really improved to something like 140kg since then. thats my absolute peak with my elbow rn i cant even bench more than 60kg probably
im getting injured too frequenly to be able to bench. + fixing my technique and getting mind muscle connection down lifting with perfect form really controlling the eccentric.
ive actually tried upper lower again while on cycle and i grew smaller but got stronger over the course of 6 months. the volume is really not it. idk what happened to me but i respond really well to destroying my muscles with high volume now
Slowww
Member
That makes sense, seems like it worked out well then for you. Pretty solid change in the bench and the PRs sound quite fast for sure. Yeah, your point about weight makes sense, I programmed it once for a smaller beginner, even with squat and deadlifts during the week. However the weights were so small, the fatigue would be quite low.
Yeah haha right at 109+ hitting the body completely every two days with the necessary compound lifts sounds like it would result in injury or getting crushed by fatigue
dinfar1337
New Member
im lucky fatigue just set in back then.
you will just stop getting stronger at some point. its what really got me hooked onto fitness back then. i was fucking enjoying every upper body muscle got +1-2 reps every session
im still doing ppl since im growing faster on that than bro split.
but fuck i love bro split. i cant wait for the day i cant recover from ppl anymore and blast 1 body part a day.
i dont even care about strength anymore. im injured and growing better with lower weights right now than 1 month into training when i was kid
Slowww
Member
Ppl can be very good imo as long as the recoverable volume is correct. I think you don’t necessarily outgrow it, as long as you have correct volume and recovery. Or you can modify # of sessions/body parts.
Same about strength. add weight as required, but dont have any goals. If someone can overhead press 5 plates ok, if they can’t— who cares, in a vacuum it doesnt mean anything for a physique. There are plenty of strong guys who look like dog shit, and if you’re focused on physique, objective strength is totally unnecessary. It’s only relative strength that matters— and not even in the traditional sense. At the end of your cycle are you more “bodybuilding strong”. Is there more TUT, more pause, better contraction, deeper rom, control or more load with the other factors kept the same. I learned this with my spinal injury. It forced me to get perfect technique with the back movements so I could train while my spine recovered, and I still made improvement despite the fact that just walking or sitting hurt.
