Defiant Pharma (US Domestic)

[Sampei]

For some weird reason I ended up with anemia after running a 1g EQ blast.

I plan to start injecting iron dextran, just waiting for my 1.5inch needles to arrive. Oral iron doesn't seem to work for me either. Iron infusion will not be covered by insurance (I don't think your HGB is low enough to qualify either) and even if it did it'll be very expensive. Few hundred an infusion and you'd need a couple..

I'll start with vet grade and if it works I'll source for human grade..

I ran a 24 cycle 1G of EQ and half way through found myself with HCT of 44 lol

 

[Turkeybuilder]

I'm pretty convinced it was due to my relatively severe adverse reaction to pitavastatin, along with dosing GHK-Cu too high for 2 months trying to heal a bicep tendon rupture.

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well if you think that's the reason then atleast you have the cause. i'd look out for any irregular heart rhythm, if you have an apple watch do an ECG daily just incase you develop AFIB. Your numbers aren't awful but i'd absolutely resolve them back to baseline before starting EQ

 

[AllGoodThings]

I ran a 24 cycle 1G of EQ and half way through found myself with HCT of 44 lol

Interesting. I'm curious as to the mechanism behind this. Is it dosime related more than duration related?

I'm having some other tests done to rule out anything serious, but I'm probably going to try alrind 300mg bold cyp for 10 to 12 weeks and get bloodwork done every month to monitor.

 

[AllGoodThings]

well if you think that's the reason then atleast you have the cause. i'd look out for any irregular heart rhythm, if you have an apple watch do an ECG daily just incase you develop AFIB. Your numbers aren't awful but i'd absolutely resolve them back to baseline before starting EQ

Do you think introducing 300mg bold cyp a week would add an unnecessary variable, or do you think it would be outright detrimental to recovery?

 

[Photon]

Interesting. I'm curious as to the mechanism behind this. Is it dosime related more than duration related?

I'm having some other tests done to rule out anything serious, but I'm probably going to try alrind 300mg bold cyp for 10 to 12 weeks and get bloodwork done every month to monitor.

Do you other labs?
iron
ferritin
iron sat
tibc
hscrp

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Do you think introducing 300mg bold cyp a week would add an unnecessary variable, or do you think it would be outright detrimental to recovery?

Are you experiencing any symptoms of anemia? Poor cardio, shortness of breath randomly, pale, cold all the time, difficulty getting a good bump, weaker than usual..

Your numbers aren't at a point where i'd imagine you're experiencing symptoms but age also plays a role in that. I'm not exactly sure the effects bold cyp would have in your case honestly if anything in theory it would help it, but needless to say that doesn't mean you've resolved your problem. It only means you're masking it.

 

[AllGoodThings]

Do you other labs?
iron
ferritin
iron sat
tibc
hscrp

Stuffs whacky for sure. No hscrp yet, but I see my pcp soon and I'll have her do some follow up testing and repeats for some of them.

Are you experiencing any symptoms of anemia? Poor cardio, shortness of breath randomly, pale, cold all the time, difficulty getting a good bump, weaker than usual..

Your numbers aren't at a point where i'd imagine you're experiencing symptoms but age also plays a role in that. I'm not exactly sure the effects bold cyp would have in your case honestly if anything in theory it would help it, but needless to say that doesn't mean you've resolved your problem. It only means you're masking it.

Definitely weaker than normal by a significant amount, ~30% for some lifts, and no pump to speak of, despite more than sufficient anabolics, hydration, minerals, carbs, etc.. Knees have been shot for weeks, which I attribute to the statin use, which I've discontinued for 2 weeks now, but have seen it can take months to resolve.


@Defiant Pharma I apologize for not asking sooner, but I can take this conversation elsewhere of you prefer. Some sources appreciate the traffic and free bumps to the top and have conversations of all kinds going on in their threads, but I can also see some not wanting the clutter. Just let me know

 

[Photon]

Are you experiencing any symptoms of anemia? Poor cardio, shortness of breath randomly, pale, cold all the time, difficulty getting a good bump, weaker than usual..

Your numbers aren't at a point where i'd imagine you're experiencing symptoms but age also plays a role in that. I'm not exactly sure the effects bold cyp would have in your case honestly if anything in theory it would help it, but needless to say that doesn't mean you've resolved your problem. It only means you're masking it.

He's got a really low iron sat.. definitely going to have anemia symptoms.

 

[Defiant Pharma]

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Stuffs whacky for sure. No hscrp yet, but I see my pcp soon and I'll have her do some follow up testing and repeats for some of them.


Definitely weaker than normal by a significant amount, ~30% for some lifts, and no pump to speak of, despite more than sufficient anabolics, hydration, minerals, carbs, etc.. Knees have been shot for weeks, which I attribute to the statin use, which I've discontinued for 2 weeks now, but have seen it can take months to resolve.


@Defiant Pharma I apologize for not asking sooner, but I can take this conversation elsewhere of you prefer. Some sources appreciate the traffic and free bumps to the top and have conversations of all kinds going on in their threads, but I can also see some not wanting the clutter. Just let me know

I don't mind at all brother. Keep on keeping on.

 

[Photon]

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Stuffs whacky for sure. No hscrp yet, but I see my pcp soon and I'll have her do some follow up testing and repeats for some of them.


Definitely weaker than normal by a significant amount, ~30% for some lifts, and no pump to speak of, despite more than sufficient anabolics, hydration, minerals, carbs, etc.. Knees have been shot for weeks, which I attribute to the statin use, which I've discontinued for 2 weeks now, but have seen it can take months to resolve.


@Defiant Pharma I apologize for not asking sooner, but I can take this conversation elsewhere of you prefer. Some sources appreciate the traffic and free bumps to the top and have conversations of all kinds going on in their threads, but I can also see some not wanting the clutter. Just let me know

I don't think EQ or BoldCyp is going to help.
Check hsCrp. if it's high, it gives an artificially inflated ferritin and prevents iron absorption.

Ask for a referral to a GI specialist, they are more familiar getting iron infusion approved by insurance. PCPs usually aren't that familiar. You might also need a scope by the GI specialist to check for bleeding. Men don't lose blood every month so when it falls..something's wrong..

You might be able to get iron infusions approved based off that iron sat but I'm not 100% sure (insurance dependent).

 

[Turkeybuilder]

He's got a really low iron sat.. definitely going to have anemia symptoms.

He didn't send those until after I asked. Yeah definitely concerning

Definitely weaker than normal by a significant amount, ~30% for some lifts, and no pump to speak of, despite more than sufficient anabolics, hydration, minerals, carbs, etc.. Knees have been shot for weeks, which I attribute to the statin use, which I've discontinued for 2 weeks now, but have seen it can take months to resolve.

well there's your answer then. Absolutely no need for you to add another anabolic until you get this resolved.

I don't think EQ or BoldCyp is going to help.
Check hsCrp. if it's high, it gives an artificially inflated ferritin and prevents iron absorption.

Ask for a referral to a GI specialist, they are more familiar getting iron infusion approved by insurance. PCPs usually aren't that familiar. You might also need a scope by the GI specialist to check for bleeding. Men don't lose blood every month so when it falls..something's wrong..

You might be able to get iron infusions approved based off that iron sat but I'm not 100% sure (insurance dependent).

Doesn't need a scope if there's no concern of GI bleeding. Would just be a waste of time and money.

 

[Photon]

Doesn't need a scope if there's no concern of GI bleeding. Would just be a waste of time and money.

Problem is nobody knows why it's dropping lol.
Infusions are only a temporarily bandaid.

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Problem is nobody knows why it's dropping lol.
Infusions are only a temporarily bandaid.

He thinks he knows the reason (an adverse effect to pitavastatin). Personally i’m not familiar with the drug but i’d imagine he’s done his homework if he’s pinned it down to that being the cause. All he can do is discontinue the medication and begin the process of reversing the anemia. You could streamline the process @AllGoodThings by talking to your PCP about your symptoms but if you’re not having bloody stools, lower back pain from a recent fall (retroperitoneal bleed rule out), coughing / vomitting blood, severe lower quadrant abdominal pain (triple AAA? Highly doubt. Symptoms are painfully physically obvious) then I highly doubt they will consider any diagnostic imaging.

 

[AllGoodThings]

@Turkeybuilder
@Photon

I've actually got an already scheduled appointment coming up with my gastroenterologist, so I'll go over this with him. I'll ask my pcp for a hscrp test as well. I appreciate the consult guys, thank you

 

[Defiant Pharma]

@Turkeybuilder
@Photon

I've actually got an already scheduled appointment coming up with my gastroenterologist, so I'll go over this with him. I'll ask my pcp for a hscrp test as well. I appreciate the consult guys, thank you

I hope you get it figured out brother. Like others said, take care of yourself first before throwing another AAS in the mix. Better to be safe than sorry. Hopefully it is just from the statin use.

D.

 

[Dial It In]

I'm pretty convinced it was due to my relatively severe adverse reaction to pitavastatin, along with dosing GHK-Cu too high for 2 months trying to heal a bicep tendon rupture.

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You on a GLP on any type? If so anyone have a take on its limited studies on some if those on its impact on mineral absorption or am I just way off on that?

 

[AllGoodThings]

You on a GLP on any type? If so anyone have a take on its limited studies on some if those on its impact on mineral absorption or am I just way off on that?

Reta @750mcg Monday and Thursday currently. Max dose I've ever taken was for a few months recently @1.5mg Monday and Thursday, so 3mg/week max dose. I'm doubtful it had an impact, but no reason not to dig a little deeper

 

[AllGoodThings]

I hope you get it figured out brother. Like others said, take care of yourself first before throwing another AAS in the mix. Better to be safe than sorry. Hopefully it is just from the statin use.

D.

Appreciate it. Boldenone is probably my least stocked up on common AAS, so worst case this motivated me to get a bit more for the freezer lol

 

[Dial It In]

Appreciate it. Boldenone is probably my least stocked up on common AAS, so worst case this motivated me to get a bit more for the freezer lol

If you got any room left lol

 

[Oldhand]

I remember years ago seeing it come in 600 if I’m not mistaken

Same… was it cat cafe???