Poll: Who filters their peptides?

[Kralteramon]

Hi All,

I understand there are some potential harm reduction benefits to filtering peptides. It sounds good on paper but we don't really notice a difference in our day to day. Therefore I assume many of you (including myself) gave up on filtering because it has become too much of a chore for questionmark results. To put my assumption to the test. Please let us know if you're filtering your peptides or not and let's have a discussion.

 

[Ghoul]

This is not a decision to be made by following the herd.

If someone asked "Who's quit smoking cigarettes to protect against cance?"" in 1940, or "Who's decided to avoid trans fats to reduce their risk of having a heart attack?" in 1980, and followed the majority, how would that have worked out?

Weigh the potential risks against the "burden" of filtering (it's really nothing once you get on the habit), and make your own choice, because whatever the consequences are, in 1 month or 20 years, will be yours alone.

 

[Kralteramon]

This is not a decision to be made by following the herd.

If someone asked "Who's quit smoking cigarettes to protect against cance?"" in 1940, or "Who's decided to avoid trans fats to reduce their risk of having a heart attack?" in 1980, and followed the majority, how would that have worked out?

Weigh the potential risks against the "burden" of filtering (it's really nothing once you get on the habit), and make your own choice, because whatever the consequences are, in 1 month or 20 years, will be yours alone.

Whatever may be the unknown risk factors. I'm just wondering what people are actually doing. Is it catching on? Or are people discarting the advise.

 

[keenpen]

This is not a decision to be made by following the herd.

If someone asked "Who's quit smoking cigarettes to protect against cance?"" in 1940, or "Who's decided to avoid trans fats to reduce their risk of having a heart attack?" in 1980, and followed the majority, how would that have worked out?

Weigh the potential risks against the "burden" of filtering (it's really nothing once you get on the habit), and make your own choice, because whatever the consequences are, in 1 month or 20 years, will be yours alone.

God damn, we'll said. The herd is usually late to adopt best practices.

Whatever may be the unknown risk factors. I'm just wondering what people are actually doing. Is it catching on? Or are people discarting the advise.

My guess is that most people here "just pin it" because they didn't die from it the first time. And their buddy Jack does the same.

I teach everyone to filter. It's so easy, cost effective and by far the best form of harm reduction we have.

 

[Kralteramon]

God damn, we'll said. The herd is usually late to adopt best practices.


My guess is that most people here "just pin it" because they didn't die from it the first time. And their buddy Jack does the same.

I teach everyone to filter. It's so easy, cost effective and by far the best form of harm reduction we have.

How is it cost effective if you need to pin 5 different peptides including hgh every day? That's a lot of PES filters and filtering by the end of the month. Unless you have a method that you can share to filter more cost effective.

 

[Barney67]

How is it cost effective if you need to pin 5 different peptides including hgh every day? That's a lot of PES filters and filtering by the end of the month. Unless you have a method that you can share to filter more cost effective.

A 100 pack of 0.2um PES 33mm diameter is about $100 on Amazon right now (Cobetter). These are rated for 100mL-200mL volumes. The 25mm ones are rated for 10mL-100mL, but the 100 packs are currently out of stock.

You can reconstitute more milligrams into a bigger volume sterile vial. So instead of, for example, reconstituting 2 weeks’ supply at a time with a 3mL vial, do 1-2 months with a 10-20mL vial and use one filter. As long as you use Hospira, good aseptic technique, and refrigerate, I wouldn’t worry about contamination.

 

[BeardedGuy]

It’s a pain in the ass, and makes a bit of a mess, but I do it. 100% because of this forum

 

[Kralteramon]

It’s a pain in the ass, and makes a bit of a mess, but I do it. 100% because of this forum

But the real question is. Are you really reducing harm in the way you think you are, or is it just the perception of being protected by a filter? I think the danger lies in that people think it gives them full protection against contamination by filtering it.

A filter is not a fix for everything bad. A 0.22 µm filter can remove live bacteria from solutions, but it cannot remove endotoxins/pyrogens, dissolved impurities, solvents, heavy metals, or truncated peptide byproducts, the main issues in this space. Endotoxins are smaller than the pores and heat-stable, so they sail right through.

So all you're doing is removing those which may cause an infection or inflamation.

Not blocked are:
Endotoxins
Dissolved toxins, solvents, or heavy metals
Incorrect or degraded peptide molecules
Some virusses

 

[Sampei]

A 100 pack of 0.2um PES 33mm diameter is about $100 on Amazon right now (Cobetter). These are rated for 100mL-200mL volumes. The 25mm ones are rated for 10mL-100mL, but the 100 packs are currently out of stock.

You can reconstitute more milligrams into a bigger volume sterile vial. So instead of, for example, reconstituting 2 weeks’ supply at a time with a 3mL vial, do 1-2 months with a 10-20mL vial and use one filter. As long as you use Hospira, good aseptic technique, and refrigerate, I wouldn’t worry about contamination.

Yeah and you just forgot of peptides degradation lol

Nice try broski

 

[IndividualMan]

But the real question is. Are you really reducing harm in the way you think you are, or is it just the perception of being protected by a filter? I think the danger lies in that people think it gives them full protection against contamination by filtering it.

A filter is not a fix for everything bad. A 0.22 µm filter can remove live bacteria from solutions, but it cannot remove endotoxins/pyrogens, dissolved impurities, solvents, heavy metals, or truncated peptide byproducts, the main issues in this space. Endotoxins are smaller than the pores and heat-stable, so they sail right through.

So all you're doing is removing those which may cause an infection or inflamation.

Not blocked are:
Endotoxins
Dissolved toxins, solvents, or heavy metals
Incorrect or degraded peptide molecules
Some virusses

mold is filtered/blocked, no? how many peps are contaminated with mold, you think? I don't wanna turn into blue cheese.
that alone is reason enoug hfor me to filter.

 

[Kralteramon]

mold is filtered/blocked, no? how many peps are contaminated with mold, you think? I don't wanna turn into blue cheese.
that alone is reason enoug hfor me to filter.

I've had my left ass cheek infected with roquefort last year. We decided to eat it at christmas. It was delicious and we enjoyed it with the whole family and a good glass of pinot noir.

 

[Sampei]

mold is filtered/blocked, no? how many peps are contaminated with mold, you think? I don't wanna turn into blue cheese.
that alone is reason enoug hfor me to filter.

Bro blue cheese is so good yummy!

 

[Eddie.]

Life is too short to filter your peps. Too much time wasted, I’d rather bust a nut lol.

I just started filtering my homemade bac and this is quite enough. I was about to start filtering ssa 360IU kits in case they went cloudy but that’s about it and thankfully they come out nice. Sorry but not gonna be paranoid about that stuff, if you have that much free time and money to waste on this kind of stuff, so be it.. not gonna judge ofc and kudos to anyone has the patience to do it, but that’s not me. I’d literally prefer stop using peps if I had to filter Reta, bpc, tb, HGH, melanotan etc every time.

 

[keenpen]

The fuck? It takes an extra 2 minutes to filter. Just do it. Even good vendors get little nasties in the vial every now and then... And that's the shit you can see with your eye.

1. Reconstitute
2. Draw back into syringe
3. Put on filter and new needle
4. Inject into pen cartridge or vial.

You guys are acting like this shit takes a PhD and a couple of hours.

 

[dinfar1337]

I don't wanna turn into blue cheese.

you will have my vote forever if you run for president

 

[Barney67]

Yeah and you just forgot of peptides degradation lol

Nice try broski

If this is anything to go by, peptides can handle a lot more than we think ‍

 

[BigDadd7]

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If this is anything to go by, peptides can handle a lot more than we think ‍

Is that a letter from the place you bought it from?

 

[Barney67]

Is that a letter from the place you bought it from?

No, I buy grey not compounded

 

[deadbeef]

"Who's quit smoking cigarettes to protect against cance?"

Filtered cigarettes still cause cancer.

Therefore, filters don't work.

Q.E.D.

 

[SlamSumTest]

Anyone here have luck recently purchasing 4mm .2um PES filters? I can’t find any, the 13mm would be too big from Cobetter but maybe the peptide loss is negligible?