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[B Ware]

Absolutely wasn't clear at all until the disciplined GCMS testing done recently on pristine low color raws and finished product plus heated products.

Now we know using heat during brewing (with high quality oil) by itself is not a potent knob for degradation on TRA. Whatever caused color in those heated finished samples is formed in very low concentration or GCMS doesn't pick it up.

There are other cases of tren raws that absolutely do have some apparently nasty shit in them. But color on its own isn't the tip off. Good to know. Thanks for your GCMS testing on these recent raws.

No, now you know that color doesn’t equate to degradation or mean much at all. For those of us who have been testing things and been around for years rolled their eyes when you started the tren color crusade. Some of the darkest tren I’ve ever seen or received I received from Meso’s longest standing and most liked vendor here. It tested fine.

 

[readalot]

It tested fine.

Tested fine by what assay(s)?

GCMS to "quantify" (more accurately, identify via mass spectra) what else was there except API?

No.

 

[Luka.Halotestin]

Can't wait to inject some dark yellow primo!

 

[justtrtbro]

Either way we are teaching them what they can get away with.

My rep told me that the next Raws in line are Mast P/E and Primo.

What

Guess I'm boutta teach 'em they can fuck me in the ass.

p.s. I love my yellow raws

 

[MrTexas2]

My rep told me that the next Raws in line are Mast P/E and Primo. Lets hope they will make some fast

This will impress me. Mast and Primo have been in the shortest supply of all.

 

[Stauros3315]

At least that is what my rep told me lets hope its true

 

[justtrtbro]

This will impress me. Mast and Primo have been in the shortest supply of all.

I have no doubt they'll produce something and call it 99 percent pure primo and mast.

Someone above pointed out that their in house analysis never match the third party lol.

 

[pheno609]

I have no doubt they'll produce something and call it 99 percent pure primo and mast.

Someone above pointed out that their in house analysis never match the third party lol.

Their test c came pretty close with good purity. Despite it having an off smell it is pretty good purity wise. Very few vendors have test c raws right now that i know of. A couple vendors said by the end of the year more raws should be available, so i am hoping purity goes up and prices come down. I would expect if primo raws did become available, they wouldnt be 98%+ just because how scarce they are right now. And they will probably be crazy expensive.

 

[justtrtbro]

Their test c came pretty close with good purity. Despite it having an off smell it is pretty good purity wise. Very few vendors have test c raws right now that i know of. A couple vendors said by the end of the year more raws should be available, so i am hoping purity goes up and prices come down. I would expect if primo raws did become available, they wouldnt be 98%+ just because how scarce they are right now. And they will probably be crazy expensive.

I'm as happy to commend them on a job well done as I am to question their QC on a job done poorly.

But in both cases you paid up the ass, everyone did. So I believe expectations and goals posts moved accordingly. I guess it depends what someone is willing to accept within the price band.

I agree with you. Even their tren A was priced very, very highly - as is everything else they have. The stuff we are seeing is unacceptable. The test c came closer but some people got some pretty yellow stuff too lol

 

[pheno609]

I agree with you. Even their tren A was priced very, very highly.

Yeah i wanted tren raws but the prices were too much for me to justify. Way too expensive for me currently, especially not knowing the purity. I would be pissed if i bought those NPP raws though, that was really bad especially because how much they costed

 

[justtrtbro]

Definitely leaving a bad taste in many mouths in here I'd imagine.

After we figure out and verify the possible reasons, we will post the official statements for Npp. Thanks.

This is also a highly unsatisfactory remark. They either reshipped or produced it themselves.

If Produced themselves what is there to investigate? People who paid a premium don't give a fuck why it happened, they want to know that it will be made right, won't happen again, and that if it somehow does, they won't be told to get fucked.

They know exactly what happened, they're just biding time so things cool off and people won't be as angry when they tell everyone nothing can be done but don't worry it won't happen again LOL

happened with the bold u, someone said.

Guess everyone who bought must be wearing makeup

 

[Stauros3315]

I'm as happy to commend them on a job well done as I am to question their QC on a job done poorly.

But in both cases you paid up the ass, everyone did. So I believe expectations and goals posts moved accordingly. I guess it depends what someone is willing to accept within the price band.

I agree with you. Even their tren A was priced very, very highly - as is everything else they have. The stuff we are seeing is unacceptable. The test c came closer but some people got some pretty yellow stuff too lol

Believe me tren price was fine cause i asked another raw wholesale seller and the price he told me was 900$/100g

 

[TinyLittleMan]

Definitely leaving a bad taste in many mouths in here I'd imagine.



This is also a highly unsatisfactory remark. They either reshipped or produced it themselves.

If Produced themselves what is there to investigate? People who paid a premium don't give a fuck why it happened, they want to know that it will be made right, won't happen again, and that if it somehow does, they won't be told to get fucked.

They know exactly what happened, they're just biding time so things cool off and people won't be as angry when they tell everyone nothing can be done but don't worry it won't happen again LOL

happened with the bold u, someone said.

Guess everyone who bought must be wearing makeup

They will just beat around the bush we couldn’t even get a fucken price list out of these guys

 

[Photon]

Just curious but did you guys test the NPP you received or are all of you trying to get some sorta credit or refund using B Ware's report? Lol

I only saw one NPP report so far but it seems multiple people are reaching out to their reps?

 

[Stauros3315]

Just curious but did you guys test the NPP you received or are all of you trying to get some sorta credit or refund using B Ware's report? Lol

I only saw one NPP report so far but it seems multiple people are reaching out to their reps?

I would test the material and finished product cause i brewed 500ml of it but i dont know exactly how to do the process

 

[justtrtbro]

Believe me tren price was fine cause i asked another raw wholesale seller and the price he told me was 900$/100g

How did it turn out?

 

[justtrtbro]

They will just beat around the bush we couldn’t even get a fucken price list out of these guys

It is all water under the bridge when they drop the primo and mast lol

 

[justtrtbro]

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Just curious but did you guys test the NPP you received or are all of you trying to get some sorta credit or refund using B Ware's report? Lol

I only saw one NPP report so far but it seems multiple people are reaching out to their reps?

Even if that were the case, these guys definitely use Bware's result to market the test c. One report apparently good enough to hock it so..

I agree one test result doesn't say much in any case but it's reasonable to be unhappy when you get yellow powder with literal dirt in it

 

[justtrtbro]

I would test the material and finished product cause i brewed 500ml of it but i dont know exactly how to do the process

Did you get it as light as bware in the end? That looked really good considering the starting appearance

 

[Photon]

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Even if that were the case, these guys definitely use Bware's result to market the test c. One report apparently good enough to hock it so..

I agree one test result doesn't say much in any case but it's reasonable to be unhappy when you get yellow powder with literal dirt in it

Yea they sent me Sampei's report when I asked for TNE.