HGH side effects

[ve79]

This is my first time taking GH. I just started taking 2ius on Monday to see how my body reacts. I been taking it at night before bed and I have not been able to sleep. I also start to sweat . I do get a few hrs of sleep because I get some very vivid dreams. Has anyone experience this and have anything to help I would appreciate it

 

[Sera]

@AlexDavis43 how long did it take you to get to 10iu a day?

 

[sim]

I noticed this too when I first started. Sleep tracker said RHR increased 10bpm and body temp was 1.4 degrees higher. Swapped it to morning and didn't notice any lethargy until I went to 4ius. Switched back to night time but I have a 8sleep now and no issues.

 

[AlexDavis43]

@AlexDavis43 how long did it take you to get to 10iu a day?

I don't remember exactly, probably around 2 months

 

[ve79]

Hard to say what's true, as the studies aren't really on a population anything like us... so here are some of my opinions:

1) rock on, I think you'll like it bc 2 IU/d seems more like an 'anti-aging' dose; 4 IU/d is on your way to a bodybuilding dose




2) I don't know if it's actual growth (as in increased skeletal muscle protein/hypertrophy), but definitely noticeably increased muscle fullness every day, not just the muscles that were trained that day

3) This is like 90% theoretical: the fat loss effects are moderate at any dose but muscle fullness increases dose-dependently, so at lower doses fat loss is more noticeable, but at 10 IU/d (this is what I do), the fat loss isn't much better than 4 IU but definitely more muscle fullness

4) I still believe this about GH dosing: "as much as you can afford and tolerate;" but also think the effects are saturated at 10 IU/d (at least for me, probably another one of those things that differ between people)

Bumped up my GH to 4iu and gtg!

 

[iceorphen]

3 before night always knocks me out, never exceeded 6/day total

 

[Mase733]

This is my first time taking GH. I just started taking 2ius on Monday to see how my body reacts. I been taking it at night before bed and I have not been able to sleep. I also start to sweat . I do get a few hrs of sleep because I get some very vivid dreams. Has anyone experience this and have anything to help I would appreciate it

Night sweats and insomnia are both listed as side effects for tesamorelin. It must be a common occurrence for gh increasing compounds, though I agree I haven’t read many anecdotes of what you’re reporting. Maybe you’re timing it almost perfectly with your natural gh pulse in the evening. Maybe try one hour earlier next time you pin?

 

[Flatriggerman]

I went up to 12ui pharma gh for 6 to 8 months I believe and didnt help with sleep at all. (Now im back to generic stuff and everything else feels the same) Snore like crazy and gf says I stop breathing every 5 minuts, might need one of those machines soon

Get a sleep study asap. Getting a machine was the best thing I have done. I'm 6' 205lb, so not a fatty. It takes awhile to get used to but once you do sleep is great. I use a nose pillow by resmed and not a mask.

 

[Kralteramon]

Get a sleep study asap. Getting a machine was the best thing I have done. I'm 6' 205lb, so not a fatty. It takes awhile to get used to but once you do sleep is great. I use a nose pillow by resmed and not a mask.

Or a good snore guard, works well for me. No need to get a CPAP if you can avoid it this way. But you need to address it!

 

[benfrankparkway]

Or a good snore guard, works well for me. No need to get a CPAP if you can avoid it this way. But you need to address it!

have any recommendations for a snore guard

 

[Kralteramon]

have any recommendations for a snore guard

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[Proud Pangolin]

This is my first time taking GH. I just started taking 2ius on Monday to see how my body reacts. I been taking it at night before bed and I have not been able to sleep. I also start to sweat . I do get a few hrs of sleep because I get some very vivid dreams. Has anyone experience this and have anything to help I would appreciate it

I just took 2IU last night because i wasnt able to sleep.due to Reta for the last 2 days and had the beat sleep of my life. I may actually switch to GH even though im in my early/mid 20s and im not on any other PED right now (taking peptides right now though)

Everyone is different, just move your dosage to the morning or afternoon.

 

[Proud Pangolin]

Hard to say what's true, as the studies aren't really on a population anything like us... so here are some of my opinions:

1) rock on, I think you'll like it bc 2 IU/d seems more like an 'anti-aging' dose; 4 IU/d is on your way to a bodybuilding dose




2) I don't know if it's actual growth (as in increased skeletal muscle protein/hypertrophy), but definitely noticeably increased muscle fullness every day, not just the muscles that were trained that day

3) This is like 90% theoretical: the fat loss effects are moderate at any dose but muscle fullness increases dose-dependently, so at lower doses fat loss is more noticeable, but at 10 IU/d (this is what I do), the fat loss isn't much better than 4 IU but definitely more muscle fullness

4) I still believe this about GH dosing: "as much as you can afford and tolerate;" but also think the effects are saturated at 10 IU/d (at least for me, probably another one of those things that differ between people)

I just want to disagree with 3). Because it seems that fatloss doesnt increase much from 2IU up. However if you split your GH in 3-4 injections pwr day, so lets say 3x a day 3 IU that will absolutely result in more fatloss.

However 4 IU vs. 10IU before bed? May not make that a big difference after all but i cant speak from my own experience the most i have run was 6IU like one year ago when i was on cycle.

 

[ve79]

I just want to disagree with 3). Because it seems that fatloss doesnt increase much from 2IU up. However if you split your GH in 3-4 injections pwr day, so lets say 3x a day 3 IU that will absolutely result in more fatloss.

However 4 IU vs. 10IU before bed? May not make that a big difference after all but i cant speak from my own experience the most i have run was 6IU like one year ago when i was on cycle.

It's strange I bumped up to 4ius and now I sleep good but not great. What was the difference you saw from 4ius to 6?

 

[BigDadd7]

I just want to disagree with 3). Because it seems that fatloss doesnt increase much from 2IU up. However if you split your GH in 3-4 injections pwr day, so lets say 3x a day 3 IU that will absolutely result in more fatloss.

However 4 IU vs. 10IU before bed? May not make that a big difference after all but i cant speak from my own experience the most i have run was 6IU like one year ago when i was on cycle.

That is majoring in the minors. 3-4 hours of fasting after every pin. When are you supposed to eat? No offense, but this is a nonsense pin schedule for minimal effective returns. Just cut 100 cal out of your diet.

 

[Proud Pangolin]

It's strange I bumped up to 4ius and now I sleep good but not great. What was the difference you saw from 4ius to 6?

I might not be the best one to answer this because i wasnt for so long on GH. However for me it was something like this:

Up to 2IU i had great sleep. With 4IU my sleep got worse. I also got some bloating so i started splitting it.

However later, i took 6IU right before bed and my sleep was good. Could be that i got simply used to it though. But many people get worse sleep with higer IU dosages right before bed.

I even have a friens who had bad sleep on 3IUs but great sleep on 6IU.
So i would say try it. Try higher dosages before bed. See if you get used to it. If not then aplit it up. After aplitting it up some time you could try it again. Or you could move your dosage completely and just take it in the morning.

Generally speaking, splitting your dosage up, will be better for fatloss. But one big GH dosage will (in my opinion) result in higher Ig-1 levels whivh is beneficial for anabolism (other would argue that tge high igf-1 levels in acromegalia come from a constant elevated GH levels and both are right)

In my humble opinion if you want to max. igf-1 dont split your dosage as long as you are under 6IU. With the logic behind it that: higher GH levels= higher igf-1 and 1-2 IUs ate considered a replacement level (not really but lets gow with this) so for your body to produce significant more igf-1 than normal you want significant higher GH levels than normal.

However if you take lets say 8IU you could argue that 4 IU is significant more than your natural GH level and its better two have 2x per day a igf-1 releasing impulse.

There is some literature who claims that more than 6IU (taken once) wont raise igf-1 further. (first of all they are taling about andocrine igf-1 which doesnt mean autocrine igf-1 wont continue to raise and therefore resulting in more anabolism but thats a different topic) But based on this you coukd argue, if you take 12 IU it would absolutely be better to split it up in two dosage.

Now other woukd argue against it and mengion a negative feedback loop and say you want a as high as possible GH dosage at once to override this.

 

[AlexDavis43]

That is majoring in the minors. 3-4 hours of fasting after every pin. When are you supposed to eat? No offense, but this is a nonsense pin schedule for minimal effective returns. Just cut 100 cal out of your diet.

Agree, compared to the dose, all of the other factors are miniscule: time of day you inject, fasted/fed, how long before a meal, with fasted cardio, etc., etc., etc

You want more effects of GH, take more GH

 

[malfeasance]

That is majoring in the minors. 3-4 hours of fasting after every pin. When are you supposed to eat? No offense, but this is a nonsense pin schedule for minimal effective returns. Just cut 100 cal out of your diet.

Bingo.

Cut for show eating first meal within an hour or so of hgh pin. Pin, cardio, eat.

It is hard enough to get enough protein in without the burden of some 3-4 hour window of no food

 

[ve79]

Bingo.

Cut for show eating first meal within an hour or so of hgh pin. Pin, cardio, eat.

It is hard enough to get enough protein in without the burden of some 3-4 hour window of no food

I've been eating first then wait a hour or so then pin

 

[Proud Pangolin]

Bingo.

Cut for show eating first meal within an hour or so of hgh pin. Pin, cardio, eat.

It is hard enough to get enough protein in without the burden of some 3-4 hour window of no food

Especially because it take like 90min for GH to reach its peak level anyways

 

[DeodatoFulci]

I bumped up from 2iu daily to 4iu, and my HR went through the roof (retatrutide is also a culprit here), and my sleep suffered. Im back down to 2iu before bed and my RHR is slowly going back to normal, and my sleep is definitely improving including an average of 2 1/2 hours of REM and deep sleep. Didnt get any carpal tunnel sides though, only a bump in HR. Id like to eventually get to 4iu daily down the line.