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[jojo2222]

Yo guys, I am a 30yo male and actively working towards a better life and health. I think I've come to the right place from what I was reading the past months, so appreciate the community.

Facts:
- only one testicle (testicular torsion+remove at 14yo)
- very low T at beginning of this year (never took any substances or steroids etc. before that)
- infertile as well (sperm count is 0, very high LH and FSH)
- no testicle cancer, no pituitary gland tumor
- love going to the gym+hikes, doing push-pull-legs (mostly barbell workouts) 3-6 times a week if well-being is given
- 175cm at 94kg rn (slight above average fitness id say, with mostly fat on legs)

Medicine:
(doctors couldnt help me, they said my high prolactin is fine and only gave out NEBIDO Testo, so I took advice from a biochemist/bodybuilding coach)
- since April 12: injection of 250 mg Testo enanthate in quadriceps weekly (1 shot)
- since June 24: Dostinex 0.5 mg every 4 days
- since August 23: lowered Dostinex to 0.25 mg every 4 days


Progress on my well-being so far:
- pre Testo: 0 drive, depression, premature ejaculation, weak errections etc.

- post Testo: all the above solved, except few weeks in back to premature ejaculation due to high prolactin solved the problem with dostinex

- after dostinex: strong errections back etc., feeling good, no problems with ejaculating, dont feel side effects of dostinex, very good training sessions

- past 4-6 weeks noticed weak CNS (i think?) so took workout break. symptoms was like high sensitive to everything and sick feeling as I have a fever (on and off), but i dont. However its getting better now.

 

[BigDadd7]

Gnarly

 

[BigDadd7]

You don't really have enough blood work to draw any conclusions beyond guesses.

Free and total T (uncapped), e2 lcms, prolactin, and maybe sbhg at a minimum.

 

[jojo2222]

@BigDadd7 thanks man, my picture about blood work didnt attach. I just noticed and uploaded it in my first post

 

[Elektrobot]

Yo guys, I am a 30yo male and actively working towards a better life and health. I think I've come to the right place from what I was reading the past months, so appreciate the community.

Facts:
- only one testicle (testicular torsion+remove at 14yo)
- very low T at beginning of this year (never took any substances or steroids etc. before that)
- infertile as well (sperm count is 0, very high LH and FSH)
- no testicle cancer, no pituitary gland tumor
- love going to the gym+hikes, doing push-pull-legs (mostly barbell workouts) 3-6 times a week if well-being is given
- 175cm at 94kg rn (slight above average fitness id say, with mostly fat on legs)

Medicine:
(doctors couldnt help me, they said my high prolactin is fine and only gave out NEBIDO Testo, so I took advice from a biochemist/bodybuilding coach)
- since April 12: injection of 250 mg Testo enanthate in quadriceps weekly (1 shot)
- since June 24: Dostinex 0.5 mg every 4 days
- since August 23: lowered Dostinex to 0.25 mg every 4 days


Progress on my well-being so far:
- pre Testo: 0 drive, depression, premature ejaculation, weak errections etc.

- post Testo: all the above solved, except few weeks in back to premature ejaculation due to high prolactin solved the problem with dostinex

- after dostinex: strong errections back etc., feeling good, no problems with ejaculating, dont feel side effects of dostinex, very good training sessions

- past 4-6 weeks noticed weak CNS (i think?) so took workout break. symptoms was like high sensitive to everything and sick feeling as I have a fever (on and off), but i dont. However its getting better now.

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Are you able to get more bloodwork where you live?

 

[jojo2222]

Are you able to get more bloodwork where you live?

Thanks for helping, what do you suggest to get done?

I am going to another doctor on Monday trying to get more done like vitamin D, hematocrit and mby hormones again, if that 18 T value was a "mistake".

I don't know I'm just surprised it jumped up so hard unless it can be normal when you 6 month on TRT that it still adapts and 18 is the natural value for 250mg E a week for me?

 

[Elektrobot]

Thanks for helping, what do you suggest to get done?

I am going to another doctor on Monday trying to get more done like vitamin D, hematocrit and mby hormones again, if that 18 T value was a "mistake".

I don't know I'm just surprised it jumped up so hard unless it can be normal when you 6 month on TRT that it still adapts and 18 is the natural value for 250mg E a week for me?

Try to get a sensitive estradiol test instead of the standard

I would at least get a full lipid panel, try to include ApoB and lpa. You need a CBC to check your hematocrit. Maybe ask for CMP, CRP, GGT, DHT, a1c, PSA, Cystatin C.... depending on what your future goals are , getting a baseline natural IGF would be good.

Just depends on how comprehensive you want to be about monitoring your health markers. Its likely that a Dr wont order all the things you ask for. Most of us end up ordering our own bloodwork.

There is lots of information in the serum blood testing forum

 

[jojo2222]

@Elektrobot alright, thanks so much for this introduction. I'll read about those values in the Blood Serum forum. I try to get as much as possible then from the doctor, but lipid panel should be at least possible.

My goals are just have a good Testosterone-value (and ofc good ratio to estradiol, good prolactin etc) and be fit (go on long hikes and have hard training sessions with barbells etc. without having weak CNS symptoms the next days). If possible I wanted to also go off TRT to try again to get my sperm count up, which was 0 before the TRT in order to freeze sperms. (or do HCG with TRT paired up)

But for now do you have any guesses why my Testostrone Total and free jumped so high now although not altering with the dosis (250mg E weekly) and always drawing blood 6 days after injection?

And I think I will lower the dosis step by step then starting next week with 200mg and then check the value again. What do you think with that plan?

 

[Elektrobot]

@Elektrobot alright, thanks so much for this introduction. I'll read about those values in the Blood Serum forum. I try to get as much as possible then from the doctor, but lipid panel should be at least possible.

My goals are just have a good Testosterone-value (and ofc good ratio to estradiol, good prolactin etc) and be fit (go on long hikes and have hard training sessions with barbells etc. without having weak CNS symptoms the next days). If possible I wanted to also go off TRT to try again to get my sperm count up, which was 0 before the TRT in order to freeze sperms. (or do HCG with TRT paired up)

But for now do you have any guesses why my Testostrone Total and free jumped so high now although not altering with the dosis (250mg E weekly) and always drawing blood 6 days after injection?

And I think I will lower the dosis step by step then starting next week with 200mg and then check the value again. What do you think with that plan?

I'm not trying to talk you or anyone else into drugs... but maybe read up on HGH

 

[Elektrobot]

But for now do you have any guesses why my Testostrone Total and free jumped so high now although not altering with the doses

Only things that I can correlate from your bloodwork are slight declines in SHBG and estradiol

Testosterone binds to SHBG. The less shbg you have, the more free test you have.

Testosterone also aromatizes into estrogen. Lower estrogen means less of your testosterone aromatized.

Testosterone also converts into DHT, but we don't have those numbers. If your DHT decreased, then that means more of your testosterone stayed testosterone instead of converting.

Not sure if any of that was enough to cause a big change though.