MESO "Specialized" Testing Group Fund

[Photon]

then obviously we don't need to villanize a vendor that is doing additional testing...but what the hell do I know.

Not sure what you mean by that

 

[Sampei]

First sample of test C sent from me from my old stock has been analyzed:

Janoshik Analytical

This is the result

Second sample results sent from @Sera should be soon received

 

[Al3s]

First sample of test C sent from me from my old stock has been analyzed:

Janoshik Analytical

This is the result

Second sample results sent from @Sera should be soon received

how old is that stock? and how was it stored?

 

[Tdeck81]

So is the issue mostly that Primal needs to upgrade his bottle top filter when brewing? If so, should be easy enough fix,.or not?

Or is there a more nefarious concern? (e.g. oils are actually some Chinese made shit being resold after repackaging?) I'll be honest I fell way too behind to follow all this.

AFAIK the only reason Primal is being mentioned in conjunction with this project is his oils contained the micro plastics. But the project is not limited to that vendor specifically.
This project is simply determining how various solvents and their concentrations effect the plastic equipment utilized by some in this field during the manufacturing process.

 

[Sampei]

how old is that stock? and how was it stored?

it's from october 2024. Stored vacuum sealed with oxygen absorber in a cool dark environment

 

[readalot]

First sample of test C sent from me from my old stock has been analyzed:

Janoshik Analytical

This is the result

Second sample results sent from @Sera should be soon received

Remind me please, what did it test by HPLC (purity)?

Thank you for testing it by GCMS.

 

[Sampei]

Remind me please, what did it test by HPLC (purity)?

Thank you for testing it by GCMS.

96+%

any explanation, insight, comments on the GCMS?

from my ignorance it has a high % of that 4-6androstadien similar to the NPP? or am I confusing things?

 

[Sera]

No I think it’s the one that was in the TNE
@Sampei

 

[readalot]

96+%

any explanation, insight, comments on the GCMS?

from my ignorance it has a high % of that 4-6androstadien similar to the NPP? or am I confusing things?

I will go through this and the other ones. Very interesting.

 

[Sampei]

No I think it’s the one that was in the TNE
@Sampei

oh yeah you are right it's the TNE. they said your sample analysis will be ready soon

 

[dinfar1337]

I will go through this and the other ones. Very interesting.

what the hell, old raw only tested as test and delta 6 test

96+%

any explanation, insight, comments on the GCMS?

from my ignorance it has a high % of that 4-6androstadien similar to the NPP? or am I confusing things?

we have went over delta 6 test which is completely useless making him off with a 76% raw which is a big problem.

but now we're back to my first guess. you have benzoyl solvents(Acrylophenone) and and synthetic impurities in there(Methylbenzenesulfonyloxy)

this is absolutely unacceptable if this were the pure raw

 

[readalot]

what the hell, old raw only tested as test and delta 6 test

we have went over delta 6 test which is completely useless making him off with a 76% raw which is a big problem.

but now we're back to my first guess. you have benzoyl solvents(Acrylophenone) and and synthetic impurities in there(Methylbenzenesulfonyloxy)

this is absolutely unacceptable if this were the pure raw

 

[dinfar1337]

where is that ass picture with severe necrosis.

i think this is a good example of material he could have been injecting

 

[Sampei]

and these are raws from the good time of raws, imagine that lol

 

[Sampei]

First sample of test C sent from me from my old stock has been analyzed:

Janoshik Analytical

This is the result

Second sample results sent from @Sera should be soon received

Janoshik Analytical

second sample results is out!

 

[IndividualMan]

Janoshik Analytical

second sample results is out!

First sample of test C sent from me from my old stock has been analyzed:

Janoshik Analytical

This is the result

Second sample results sent from @Sera should be soon received

whoops, and whoops.
slightly concerning stuff, huh?

 

[dinfar1337]

second sample results is out!

you are making me go out and get coffee.

geniunely have to look up bond 16 now aswell? this isnt even from testosterone synthesis impurity. its cross contaimination impurity from another steroid synthesis.

and ignoring that you have 1,7,7-Trimethyl-3-phenylaminobicyclo[2.2.1]heptan-2-ol

really heptan? aswell? @readalot

 

[readalot]

Janoshik Analytical

second sample results is out!

HPLC tested raw purity for that one? I think it is important to always pair these results when reporting.

Comes back to prior discussion/concern of potential co-elution of peaks with HPLC. GC with proper derivitization has much higher chromatographic efficiency so sometimes you miss stuff with HPLC. Not stating for a fact that is the case here, but something we must keep in mind moving forward.

Also if we have raw data for the HPLC runs that would be helpful.

This is extremely important data that is being collected and should inform UG users on the applicability of HPLC purity results.

 

[readalot]

you are making me go out and get coffee.

geniunely have to look up bond 16 now aswell? this isnt even from testosterone synthesis impurity. its cross contaimination impurity from another steroid synthesis.

and ignoring that you have 1,7,7-Trimethyl-3-phenylaminobicyclo[2.2.1]heptan-2-ol

really heptan? aswell? @readalot

Real nice cleanup on the raws (kidding). We should work together with Jano to confirm some of these auto-IDs with ref standards since the spectral database can be in error sometimes. Not good results.

 

[Sampei]

HPLC tested raw purity for that one? I think it is important to always pair these results when reporting.

Comes back to prior discussion/concern of potential co-elution of peaks with HPLC. GC with proper derivitization has much higher chromatographic efficiency so sometimes you miss stuff with HPLC. Not stating for a fact that is the case here, but something we must keep in mind moving forward.

Also if we have raw data for the HPLC runs that would be helpful.

This is extremely important data that is being collected and should inform UG users on the applicability of HPLC purity results.

@Sera