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Does the adrol bicarb reaction have any effect on potency when consumed
No. All this discussion centered on analytical testing of anadrol with methanol around. Not applicable to oral use of anadrol. No MeOH around.

The question revolves around whether the caps are 50 mg or 32 mg (or something in between) and if there is an artifact causing the HPLC testing to be off by quite a bit. After so much discussion the question really deserves an answer.
 
Agree with your math and your setup with 1 ml of MeOH. Now go back and look at the reaction of MeOH and oxymetholone in the kinetics paper I shared. What is the other product made in equimolar amount to the MeOH-oxymetholone adduct?

See eqn. 1, p. 1994.
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if im understanding it right we have a 1:1:1 quanity ratio.

so we have 1 mole of anadrol:1mole of meoh: 1 moleof adduct: 1 mole of water.

so its very simple since we already have my previous calculations which gave 0.75mg of anadrol

we have 50mg of anadrol which was around 320g/mol which nd water which is 18g/mol which gives us 50mg anadrol / 320g/mol = 0.0001503 mol anadrol * 18.02g/mol water which equals 2.71mg water.

now we can just 2.71 water * 0.015 adduct formed. = and get 0.041mg of water added.

this does pratically nothing to 99.9% alcohol if im right here @readalot ?
 
Question in my mind now is whether Jano HPLC response [with oxymetholone/MeOH and sodium bicarbonate filler] is linear over the 10 to 100 mg range? Spike recoveries at 10, 25, 50, and 100 mg?
idk its getting too late and i did too much caring about something i dont care about for today, im gonna go sleep. this issue lets leave it at janos and primals hands
 
So anadrol 50mg tested low recently for Primal & Axle.

MC was 41mg in the test someone shared but it was in 2024…mid 2024… what does that have to do with RECENT testing???

Just shows commonly anadrol 50mg has tested low for these 3 sources which we can’t fully confirm when those raws were created or where they were sourced from.

I also didn’t read thru multiple pages after that so I might have missed something that directly answers my question.

Just looks like testing needs to hammered even harder. STILL.
 
No. All this discussion centered on analytical testing of anadrol with methanol around. Not applicable to oral use of anadrol. No MeOH around.

The question revolves around whether the caps are 50 mg or 32 mg (or something in between) and if there is an artifact causing the HPLC testing to be off by quite a bit. After so much discussion the question really deserves an answer.

Given how this pertains to Jano's testing of Adrol in general, i think it might be better off discussing it in Jano's thread. The final outcome could always be posted back to this thread as a reply.

Based on the fact that the 25mg doses have no issue, i'm going with the simplest possible explanation that it was under-dosed and there is no issue with the testing process.

MC was 41mg in the test someone shared but it was in 2024…mid 2024… what does that have to do with RECENT testing???

MC is on SST and doesn't really test much.
If anyone has a vial of MC's TRE400 purchased from Jan2025-Sep2025 and is willing to get it tested, please respond.
 
So anadrol 50mg tested low recently for Primal & Axle.

MC was 41mg in the test someone shared but it was in 2024…mid 2024… what does that have to do with RECENT testing???

Just shows commonly anadrol 50mg has tested low for these 3 sources which we can’t fully confirm when those raws were created or where they were sourced from.

I also didn’t read thru multiple pages after that so I might have missed something that directly answers my question.

Just looks like testing needs to hammered even harder. STILL.
Oops I missed that on the MC test my bad I thought the post date was 2025 for some reason.
 
Hey primal sorry if this has been answered are these different batches or just different caps/Vials on your TA 100
 

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95% with Dimer? Wouldnt sell that to my enemies. Definitely wouldnt call it "Premium" and charge premium prices for it.

Again, amazed how this source gets a pass. Its a study in psychology really...

Prices, sales, availability and free gear.
Same as how CN sources don't get vetted but still get sales.

Hey primal sorry if this has been answered are these different batches or just different caps/Vials on your TA 100

I'd test both via HPLC/GCMS and get it reimbursed, can easily see via testing if they are different batches. Or you can make some noise and he'll probably send you a free vial. :cool:
 
Prices, sales, availability and free gear.
Same as how CN sources don't get vetted but still get sales.



I'd test both via HPLC/GCMS and get it reimbursed, can easily see via testing if they are different batches. Or you can make some noise and he'll probably send you a free vial. :cool:
Or I can just ask him (which I did) and run the oil (which I am)
 
95% with Dimer? Wouldnt sell that to my enemies. Definitely wouldnt call it "Premium" and charge premium prices for it.

Again, amazed how this source gets a pass. Its a study in psychology really...
People had been hounding them about the testing delay and then they got hounded about the results. I don’t think anyone got a pass. If people bought without seeing results first then that’s on them.
 
Some of us find this interesting. As it’s been suggested to you before, maybe you should just utilize the ignore function.
Or maybe you could go read about things that interest you but have nothing to do with buying from this source over on a thread that makes more sense. You obviously are missing the point.
 
@readalot @dinfar1337 @Photon

I think I’m grasping the general scientific principles you’re using to validate the Jano testing, but it is highly confusing for me. Is it fair to say it’s virtually impossible for the testing +/- to be so great that a 50mg Anadrol pill would test as 32mg?
Unclear to me at this point. It is nice to see the thirst for learning here. Nice contrast to the background down voting.
A simple response from Jano addressing the sodium bicarbonate matrix and what he has observed would clear things up.
 
Unclear to me at this point. It is nice to see the thirst for learning here. Nice contrast to the background down voting.
A simple response from Jano addressing the sodium bicarbonate matrix and what he has observed would clear things up.
Move this an appropriate thread Readalot. You aren’t contributing anything at the moment. You are spamming the thread with your personal interests.
 
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