Meanmachine_nl
Member
I have this batch too. This is his latest.
I only had a bit of pip on the injection day.
Day after it it was 90% gone. I too get pip from everything but my experience was quite nice with this batch. 2nd pin will be today.
MESO-Rx
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Dutch Labs - EU Domestic
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I only had a bit of pip on the injection day.
Day after it it was 90% gone. I too get pip from everything but my experience was quite nice with this batch. 2nd pin will be today.
Meanmachine_nl
Member
@Dutch Labs do you already have a estimate when the next batch of test e would be ready?
Dutch Labs
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Please try the oven method. Put the vials in for a good hour and shake them. Do you have other Test C vials left? I suggest trying another vial that is not crashed to compare.
These Test C batches should not cause pip, except if they are crashing.
If it really does not work at all and the product is unusable, send me an email and we will find a solution.
Send me an email if it does not work.
I remember you contacting me, I'm going to check this again.
Dutch Labs
Subscriber
Sadly, no.
Dutch Labs
Subscriber
PIP is almost always going to be caused by the raws, not the oil, BA or BB. Otherwise all products would cause pip instead of specific ones.
The one thing I don't have full control over in the production process are the raws. That's why I'm happy to hear about any of your experiences, pip or no pip, to know what is going on. Don't hesitate to share it here or contact me. This feedback is useful.
Feedback I have received on SUST 250 is that it can cause pip or has a sting.
Sust 400 on the other hands seems to be be very smooth. These were different raws though.
A slightly darker colour when dissolved in the oil does not automatically mean it will cause pip. High purity % of the raws also does not exclude possibility of pip.
For example:
Raws for SUST 250 were tested at 96%+ purity, can cause pip, but the colour in the oil is very clear.
Raws for SUST 400 were tested at 94% purity, seems to not cause any pip even at a higher concentration, but the oil has a darker tint comparatively.
The one thing I don't have full control over in the production process are the raws. That's why I'm happy to hear about any of your experiences, pip or no pip, to know what is going on. Don't hesitate to share it here or contact me. This feedback is useful.
Feedback I have received on SUST 250 is that it can cause pip or has a sting.
Sust 400 on the other hands seems to be be very smooth. These were different raws though.
A slightly darker colour when dissolved in the oil does not automatically mean it will cause pip. High purity % of the raws also does not exclude possibility of pip.
For example:
Raws for SUST 250 were tested at 96%+ purity, can cause pip, but the colour in the oil is very clear.
Raws for SUST 400 were tested at 94% purity, seems to not cause any pip even at a higher concentration, but the oil has a darker tint comparatively.
Dutch Labs
Subscriber
On this subject. There is the idea that Test P causes pip at higher concentrations or even at 100mg/ml.
Feedback on our TEST P 200 is that it's pipless.
It is known that a lot of the Test E raws available before the raws situation started this year were already causing pip.
In any case, if a product is unusable to you because of pip, let me know. Just send me an email I will check what is going on and reimburse you, or send you an alternative product.
Feedback on our TEST P 200 is that it's pipless.
It is known that a lot of the Test E raws available before the raws situation started this year were already causing pip.
In any case, if a product is unusable to you because of pip, let me know. Just send me an email I will check what is going on and reimburse you, or send you an alternative product.
Dutch Labs
Subscriber
Producing in the coming days. Hopefully available next week.
Great
Me as well. Second pin today, I will try to warm a little the oil and inject way before bedtime to see if it makes any difference.
(On the left: Last Batch Test E without label to apreciate its color, second from left to right is PP to see all are the same color, no yellowish)
First order with Dutch Labs. Ordered Test E from his last batch and PP to test it out. Here's my experience and conclusions:
1.- Had a small problem with order payment (on my end) and John was there to solve it fast
2.- Shipping was less than 24h and arrived in a couple of days without counting weekend
3.- Good package
4.- Vials look and feel very clean
5.- New stoppers look higher quality that those used in the previous batch (PP is from the first batch I think; you can see in picture) so I appreciate the change in material.
6.- Had PIP from injecting <0.5ml Test E BUT I'm someone who tends to have PIP with everything for no reason whatsoever, so I may not be the best judge for that.
In conclusion I think it was worth the order and I will order again from Dutch Labs. Waiting for him to restock some product and I will order again
Kralteramon
Member
Alright, I will try the oven method tonight. My next injection is on Sunday, I will report PIP on monday or tuesday. I have 8 more vials left so I will try another one to compare. I hope that this will be the solution. If not I will shoot you an email. Thanks a lot for the excellent service and comms.
MCT is mig812 the difference is just that mig812 is a registered product name produced by IoI Oleo Gmhb and has slightly stricter values to comply on the COA.
Good quality pharma grade MCT is identical to Mig812
Mig810 is slightly different on the % of C8/C10 but it's very little difference so same thing mostly.
Mig840 is something completely different beast and can't be compared to any of the product above.
thanks
Meanmachine_nl
Member
Okay so far i had 3 injections. First one i thought was a mild pip with 1 day soreness.
But holy hell 2nd and 3rd injection are killing me.
Very painfull injection sites, i tried to use a mugwarmer to smoothen the injection but no result unfortunately.
It swells up like crazy, luckily no redness. But i can barely walk.
Did VG 2nd time and thigh 3rd time.
In VG theres still a lump after couple of days and thigh i used only 0,5 to check if it would make a difference. Im gonna try eod smaller dosages.
But holy hell 2nd and 3rd injection are killing me.
Very painfull injection sites, i tried to use a mugwarmer to smoothen the injection but no result unfortunately.
It swells up like crazy, luckily no redness. But i can barely walk.
Did VG 2nd time and thigh 3rd time.
In VG theres still a lump after couple of days and thigh i used only 0,5 to check if it would make a difference. Im gonna try eod smaller dosages.
Ninjarello1
Member
Test e?
Meanmachine_nl
Member
Yeah Test E, his latest small batch
Eddie.
Member
I dilute the E400 with test cyp, EQ, NPP and a little deca and while pip is not bad now after all that added oil, I had a swelling in my pec and a big knot that it still hasn’t gone away.
It’s not that severe though like that time I shoot it straight with only a little EQ and went golf ball size, red and hot to touch. Those raw must have been nasty af.
BabaJagga
Member
maybe they were cut with indian curry...
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