Boldenone is underrated.

[Zeus45]

Boldenone is inferior to testosterone in every way possible and if you’re bulking just run 2g of testosterone instead of 1g EQ 1g Test.

Test only gives better sex drive, more fullness, more size, no wacky E1 increase, and is easily managed with AI.

EQ is for athletes , and bodybuilders using it are just wasting room in the syringe when they can be using more testosterone.

Bulking: Nandrolone and Trestolone if you can handle them.

Cutting: Masteron and Primo.

EQ is just useless from my experiences.

 

[yoyoy]

I’ve heard good things but never actually used it to have a personal experience. Seems overpriced around here.

I have been using it for a long time now, and it does have its place as an anti clotting supp, but it doesnt do much for the HTC. Since I have started using serrapeptase I have seen some drops in HTC. I can also recommend fresh grapefruit juice form like 1-2 grapefruits a day, IP6, Sylimarin tablets (cheap as chips) and a lot of walking (like over 20k daily).

 

[yoyoy]

I guess IP6 will help, is one of the most known for high HCT, also if you can get your hands on methylene blue some say it helps with lowering HCT. Nattokinase is very good too. I'd avoid aspirin, i'd take it only if platelets were borderline high which yours ain't. Good call on trying to avoid blood donation as well.

allegedly Methylene Blue raises the RBC in low dosages and works the opposite way with higher dosages. Thats according to Vigorous Steve

 

[AlexDavis43]

a lot of walking (like over 20k daily).

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That's according to Vigorous Steve

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[baht]

In my experience, you can grow on 500mg of Test at any point in your Bodybuilding journey. You may not grow as fast as you want but make no bones about it, if you can’t grow on 500mg of test then there is something very wrong. Dont get me wrong, if you are very advanced and hold a lot of muscle then the gains will be slower than a newer bodybuilder.

that's just bullshit

if you extrapolate that same logic you can grow on trt indefinitely or even natty just gains are slower

 

[unid888]

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Steve hate is so forced. Guy literally saves everyone from reading stupid pubmed studies

 

[ve79]

From what I've read, seen, and heard, testosterone is the king. Only problem with test is excessive aromatization. How do people solve that? Usually with either an AI, lowering test and leveraging other things like nandrolone or recently the infamous high masteron low test cycles (great on paper but pretty mediocre in practice), or using good ol' primobolan to keep estrogen at bay. But what about Boldenone? You can also control E2 with Boldenone seemingly. Now it seems that the main problem with Boldenone is its looooong ester that is usually always attached to which makes it harder to plan around, takes a while to build up and clear up, the main reason a lot of people get anxiety from it is very likely that they are lowering their E2 too much and due to having a long ester it takes a while for the dose adjustment to be felt in practice. The main issues with Boldenone are fixed by having it in a shorter ester like Cyp. Now some other may bring up the nephro-toxic nature of Boldenone; however, that is a problem that is no inherent from Boldenone use since that is a branching issue from having chronically elevated blood pressure (which all steroids cause). Probably the reason why Boldenone stands out as more neptho-toxic than other compounds is its inherently better ability to elevate red blood count which thickens your blood, thus increasing blood pressure. If you do your due diligence and control BP as you should if you're using and AAS anyway, then something like Boldenone cyp seems like a really good cost-effective alternative to primo.

I think it's over rated . I used it years ago and never went back. Endurance was great but just not for me

 

[dinfar1337]

if you extrapolate that same logic you can grow on trt indefinitely or even natty just gains are slower

damn you finally figured it out

they keep gaining these nattys its just 0.02kg of muscle a month

that has atleast been my thought process ive gained and im glad someone who has been on meso for 20+ years agrees with how protein synthesis works

 

[xrayphoton13]

Wrong phrasing for what I meant.

Mental sides, kidneys and hematocrit. Nothing more really. There are a bunch of people that feel toxic on it which I was thinking about that's where the phrasing came from.

boldenone isn't kidney toxic. And overall boldenone is less toxic than primo.

Thread 'Boldenone (EQ) Misconceptions and Comparison with Metenolone (Primo) [Author: Type-IIx]'

May 13, 2023

There are an abundance of misconceptions about “EQ”; Equipoise (boldenone, as undecylenate) it seems. Let's address some of the primary misconceptions:

1. Misconception that boldenone is nonaromatizable, or that its use (in sufficiently high doses) permit abstaining from AI/SERM use in users that are not resilient against aromatizing effects (e.g., fluid retention/edema, growth of breast tissue, etc.)

Reality: Boldenone aromatizes (to estrone [E1] & estradiol [E2]) at 58% the rate of testosterone. This is significant. However, since Estrone (E1) is a weak...

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[Scruf]

that's just bullshit

if you extrapolate that same logic you can grow on trt indefinitely or even natty just gains are slower

Go back to TikTok. Grown ups are talking.

If you can’t grow on 500mg of test then you should not take anything.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Boldenone is inferior to testosterone in every way possible and if you’re bulking just run 2g of testosterone instead of 1g EQ 1g Test.

Test only gives better sex drive, more fullness, more size, no wacky E1 increase, and is easily managed with AI.

EQ is for athletes , and bodybuilders using it are just wasting room in the syringe when they can be using more testosterone.

Bulking: Nandrolone and Trestolone if you can handle them.

Cutting: Masteron and Primo.

EQ is just useless from my experiences.

Throw some GH in there and I like it. The KISS approach is how I go about my entire life

 

[baht]

damn you finally figured it out

they keep gaining these nattys its just 0.02kg of muscle a month

that has atleast been my thought process ive gained and im glad someone who has been on meso for 20+ years agrees with how protein synthesis works

sarcasm is for women

to your point, if that was true cessation of supraphysiological doses would just mean you kept everything you had on cycle and would just gain infinitesimal small amounts of muscle which everyone knows is not the case

Go back to TikTok. Grown ups are talking.

If you can’t grow on 500mg of test then you should not take anything.

Stick to less ad homeniums and argue the points old timer. "In my experience, you can grow on 500mg of Test at any point in your Bodybuilding journey."

What bodybuilding journey? Tell me you've never been above 250lbs with that statement.

 

[dinfar1337]

to your point, if that was true cessation of supraphysiological doses would just mean you kept everything you had on cycle and would just gain infinitesimal small amounts of muscle which everyone knows is not the case

my point is true, and if you cease supraphysiological dosages and dont know why you're losing muscle mass you're the retard.

you can go eat shit for making me read something so useless

 

[Scruf]

sarcasm is for women

to your point, if that was true cessation of supraphysiological doses would just mean you kept everything you had on cycle and would just gain infinitesimal small amounts of muscle which everyone knows is not the case

Stick to less ad homeniums and argue the points old timer. "In my experience, you can grow on 500mg of Test at any point in your Bodybuilding journey."

What bodybuilding journey? Tell me you've never been above 250lbs with that statement.

I have been well above 250. Dumbass. GTFOH with your stupid shit. Benched 550, squated 600 and almost won the Arnold Classic. But what the fuck do I know.

 

[Scruf]

I have been well above 250. Dumbass. GTFOH with your stupid shit. Benched 550, squated 600 and almost won the Arnold Classic. But what the fuck do I know.

 

[RockyP]

Sorry if I missed it fellas but what’s a reasonable dosage equivalent between Bold Cyp and EQ?

 

[The Answ3r]

As much as I love EQ and always try to sneak it into my cycles, last time on Test C 400 EQ 500 and Mast E 300 my hematocrit shot straight to the moon. And that was with more water than a camel, at least an hour of cardio every day, and a squeaky-clean diet. Now I don’t even know if I should bring EQ back next time or finally say goodbye to my toxic relationship with it.
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Reposting my little hematocrit saga here. I cranked up the water, added more cardio, and redid the labs, hematocrit dropped from 56.9 to 54. Thought that wasn’t enough, so I decided to play hero and donated blood anyway. Probably not the smartest move but curiosity won. These labs are from three days post-donation.



Overall, I’m happy with the drop. For now, EQ is officially retired and chilling in the drawer until further notice (gonna miss you, buddy). The next phase is just Test, Mast, and maybe a dash of NPP, keeping it simple and trying not to turn my blood into tomato paste again.

 

[BigDadd7]

If you decide to jump back on eq in the future, try dialing the dose back.

 

[BDawg00]

Just ordered some for a bulk

 

[RockyP]

Reposting my little hematocrit saga here. I cranked up the water, added more cardio, and redid the labs, hematocrit dropped from 56.9 to 54. Thought that wasn’t enough, so I decided to play hero and donated blood anyway. Probably not the smartest move but curiosity won. These labs are from three days post-donation.

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Overall, I’m happy with the drop. For now, EQ is officially retired and chilling in the drawer until further notice (gonna miss you, buddy). The next phase is just Test, Mast, and maybe a dash of NPP, keeping it simple and trying not to turn my blood into tomato paste again.

How do you feel with that Ferritin level?