The Golden Age of Raws: Pricelists from 2015-2017

[ChemBB]

Being a new guy I see this is today usually a cutting stack. Was that the same thing back then or was this also used for off season/bulking?

The thought was that, Test + Tren is one of the most potent combos you can run either in a bulk, or on a cut. And Masteron is always good, has essentially no drawbacks.

So, the only thing you changed was food and doses/ratios.

Dan Duchaine even in the 80's was quoted as saying, roughly:
"Nothing will put size on you like Test, Tren, and Anadrol."

 

[newguy2]

The thought was that, Test + Tren is one of the most potent combos you can run either in a bulk, or on a cut. And Masteron is always good, has essentially no drawbacks.

So, the only thing you changed was food and doses/ratios.

Dan Duchaine even in the 80's was quoted as saying, roughly:
"Nothing will put size on you like Test, Tren, and Anadrol."

Interesting, thanks. I don't hear many guys taking tren in the off-season today. At least not what is openly talked about.

 

[ChemBB]

Interesting, thanks. I don't hear many guys taking tren in the off-season today. At least not what is openly talked about.

Based on what I hear in public places, coaches seem to be pushing Primo/EQ as main growth agents these days.

But who knows what is actually going on in competitive circles.

 

[newguy2]

Based on what I hear in public places, coaches seem to be pushing Primo/EQ as main growth agents these days.

But who knows what is actually going on in competitive circles.

Yeah agreed. But then you get a lot of guys saying primo doesn't put on much tissue.

 

[Banana Joe]

Prices ARE not the same though. Inflation must come into play so it was about 40% pricier back then.

I just adjusted my prices for inflation. I paid around $55 for a 10ml vial of test E, and $7 for a 1ml ampoule.
Last year I paid $35(?) for a entire kit of test E over at Tracy's.

 

[Zebedee]

Never much understood the Primo craze.

I think Primo + EQ recently got popular from social media "influencers"?
Back in the day, nobody was talking about Primo. People ran EQ but it wasn't the most popular thing.

Test/Tren/Mast was the big thing.

Can't speak for what the pro scene or IRL scene in places like UK/Middle East is, only in terms of online communities.

Primo (& var) were very much expensive boutique compounds on the UK scene in the early 2000’s & few ran them, particularly as the belief back then was that anything less than at least 700-800mg PW primo was a waste of time & money. Because of this they were given almost mythical status on forums & there was definitely an aspect of conspicuous consumption around their use, IE the AAS equivalent of Armani, Gucci etc.

Obviously that all began to change as more & more guys gained access to Chinese retail sellers of raws.

The thought was that, Test + Tren is one of the most potent combos you can run either in a bulk, or on a cut. And Masteron is always good, has essentially no drawbacks.

So, the only thing you changed was food and doses/ratios.

Dan Duchaine even in the 80's was quoted as saying, roughly:
"Nothing will put size on you like Test, Tren, and Anadrol."

That view was true of the UK also. But it was almost always longer ester versions for bulking & shorter for cutting, something you don’t see so much now, at least on forums. Eg you rarely ever see guys discussing running test prop nowadays on forum period.

 

[eery]

Based on what I hear in public places, coaches seem to be pushing Primo/EQ as main growth agents these days.

But who knows what is actually going on in competitive circles.

you basically have the two sides., "safer use model" people like joe jeffery, victor black, broderick chavez and so on where they leverage DHT with a test dose as high as possible without having to need an AI and balanced out by the DHT, and then the old school higher test and an anabolic and/or two with an AI or balanced out with a DHT. Things have change a bit with the raw drought lately though so people opened their eyes to EQ as an alternative to primo and mast.