Please stop saying Anavar is a mild drug…

[RockyP]

I really can’t tell if these new accounts are some form of spam bots all asking the same stupid questions usually about anavar in a first cycle. I don’t have the social media apps but I’m guessing these influencers are pushing anavar?

There’s plenty of information on this board about anavar and the other major compounds but just for the kids reading this…

Anavar is in no way shape or form mild. It will destroy your lipid profile and can damage your kidneys. I’ve seen labs where ldl went to 250+ and HDL to single digits after 3 weeks of use. I’ve seen cystatin C rise significantly from a short cycle of 50 mg daily. Yes women take it. Yes it’s given to burn victims. Yes it’s used medicinally. That doesn’t make it mild. This idea of running it for long periods of time at low dosages is also asinine as it ignores the area under the curve. If anything, competitors are right to blast their orals for 3 weeks pre contest then stop immediately. There is so much smoke being blown up anavar’s ass regarding fat loss and safety that is either entirely untrue or vastly overblown.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Tell me where it affects kidneys. I want to see literature

 

[RockyP]

Tell me where it affects kidneys. I want to see literature

You are capable of using google I’m sure. Search with FSGS and ATN. Or for a more fun method, run it 50-100 mg a day for a month and test your Cystatin C.

 

[Elektrobot]

I’m guessing these influencers are pushing anavar?

mike israetel made a moron youtube episode telling people to run Anavar alone for their first cycle.

I shit you not, the title of the video is "Don't Use Steroids! But If You Do, Start With Orals Only"

 

[wp_375]

There's always people out there with weak bodies who go to shit on anything, can't use them as an example of how bad something is. There's also people who get triple digit AST/ALT from taking a standard dose of Tylenol, doesn't mean you shouldn't take Tylenol.

I'd say of all the orals out there, Anavar is definitely the "most mild" in terms of sides. Doesn't mean you shouldn't respect it but the amount of users with bad sides off reasonable doses is probably statistically insignificant.

 

[RockyP]

There's always people out there with weak bodies who go to shit on anything, can't use them as an example of how bad something is. There's also people who get triple digit AST/ALT from taking a standard dose of Tylenol, doesn't mean you shouldn't take Tylenol.

I'd say of all the orals out there, Anavar is definitely the "most mild" in terms of sides. Doesn't mean you shouldn't respect it but the amount of users with bad sides off reasonable doses is probably statistically insignificant.

Idk about that. I consider tanked HDL and wildly high LDL a bad side and that happens with essentially everyone running it at a dosage worth using (not taking a statin). Not saying not to use it. Just saying it’s not mild. It may be milder than anadrol but so is pretty much everything else other than halo and tren

 

[wp_375]

Idk about that. I consider single digit HDL and wildly high LDL a bad side and that happens with essentially everyone running it at a dosage worth using. Not saying not to use it. Just saying it’s not mild. It may be milder than anadrol but so is pretty much everything else other than halo and tren

Well, if you are taking Var for a year straight I guess that would be a significant problem. If you're using it like most people use it, 6-8 weeks at a time, some temporary shitty lipids that return to baseline in a few weeks isn't the worst thing that can happen to you.

 

[Bandern]

Anavar is a mild drug

 

[BigDadd7]

Anavar is a mild drug

He's gonna get you, sucka!

 

[Tdeck81]

Mild compared to Anadrol, yes. Mild compared to Tylenol, no. People are coming here because of bad information floating around out there. But we should be careful to not misrepresent it the other way either. Visible conversations like this will serve these newbies better than the “drugs are bad” philosophy.

 

[adrenalytic]

Visible conversations like this will serve these newbies better than the “drugs are bad” philosophy.

There's this nifty link at the top of every page on meso labeled "Steroid Profiles". One of the drugs discussed is Anavar (Oxandrolone).

Unfortunately, it is not formatted in a 30-90 second reel and therefore it is not digestible by today's youth.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

You are capable of using google I’m sure. Search with FSGS and ATN. Or for a more fun method, run it 50-100 mg a day for a month and test your Cystatin C.

There is no literature is my point unless you want to refer to wiki and some book some random guy wrote.

 

[RockyP]

There is no literature is my point unless you want to refer to wiki and some book some random guy wrote.

Again - you have not used the search function.

Run it at 100 mg a day for 6 weeks and pull your labs, lipids and Cystatin C. Report back. It's mild, so no issues will be had.

 

[AlexDavis43]

mike israetel made a moron youtube episode telling people to run Anavar alone for their first cycle.

I shit you not, the title of the video is "Don't Use Steroids! But If You Do, Start With Orals Only"

My god, Israetel is so fucking retarded

Can't wait to see him still being fat after his next 4 cosmetic "gut-reduction" surgeries

 

[wp_375]

Again - you have not used the search function.

Run it at 100 mg a day for 6 weeks and pull your labs, lipids and Cystatin C. Report back. It's mild, so no issues will be had.

100mg a day is retarded, no shit your labs are gonna look bad.

 

[Bandern]

@RockyP is there any cycle besides trt and 3.5mg of tren that won’t make us spontaneously combust?

 

[Elektrobot]

@RockyP is there any cycle besides trt and 3.5mg of tren that won’t make us spontaneously combust?

Haven't you heard of SARMS..... duh

 

[dinfar1337]

Search with FSGS and ATN

hello, i found a case study where there were protein induced kidney failure.

is protein kidney toxic?

should i avoid it like the plague?

stop spreading misinfo pls, any steroid or even food will cause you issues with kidneys indirectly if you're stupid enough

 

[Bandern]

hello, i found a case study where there were protein induced kidney failure.

is protein kidney toxic?

should i avoid it like the plague?

stop spreading misinfo pls, any steroid will cause you issues with kidneys indirectly if you're stupid enough

Stop calling protein a mild macro

 

[dinfar1337]

Stop calling protein a mild macro

relatively mild bro, i do 0.7g a day! insane gains