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[TanFishMan]

Any AI and yes a lot of that 30lb gain is water / fat / maybe 4-5 lbs muscle in 7 weeks

No AI. I have aromasin, primo, and EQ (all primal) Was thinking of switching 100trena for 100primo. Doing everything feels based.

 

[RockyP]

I'm on the tail end of transitioning from a cut to maintenence and I'm starting to see some nice progress in the gym. I hate that flat period I go through on a cut. I cant wait to start bulking again.

You can keep the test / GH on the higher end to stay full. Another trick I use on a cut is lowish dose of NPP (150/week). Stay super full and avoid that skinny fat look during the first few weeks of dropping food. NPP also keeps me very strong and helps the joints from drying out if I overshoot with E2 control.

 

[RockyP]

Grannies CAN be hot. Thank you!! Lol

I am cutting right now and am running 350 test e, 210 Mast P, and 105 Tren all in daily injections . 40mcg clen currently and just put back in var at 50. Workouts have been great. No complaints.

That’s a nice cutting cycle. Those are dosages I’d get down with. Height / weight??

 

[Dial It In]

If some yall begging for user experiences I’ll share. First cycle 375mg/testc 7 weeks, 100mg/tren ace for 2 weeks, both injected every day. Var/adrol 25-50mg pre workout just to experiment

Added 30 lbs of mostly water weight I’m sure as I came out of a super depleted 1400calorie 9 month cut. I really don’t feel much different, no extra energy, no extra aggression in the gym. Very Minor chest acne which I’ve never had before

numbers are going up on the weights. Hunger is through the roof, lots more boners but still low desire for sex or fapping. Just trying to keep going through the motions so I’m not wasting my time on drugs

Non primal Reta is in the mix but has become way to easy to eat through than before test. Having to keep daily log so I stay at 2500-3000.

Lastly, Primal customer support has been top notch. 3 orders, all correct and delivered fast, one complaint that was dealt with generously.

Thanks for the opportunity and 400 pages of entertainment

What’s your stats big dog? Ht, Wt BF% age? Tren in first cycle is questionable.

 

[Dial It In]

If some yall begging for user experiences I’ll share. First cycle 375mg/testc 7 weeks, 100mg/tren ace for 2 weeks, both injected every day. Var/adrol 25-50mg pre workout just to experiment

Added 30 lbs of mostly water weight I’m sure as I came out of a super depleted 1400calorie 9 month cut. I really don’t feel much different, no extra energy, no extra aggression in the gym. Very Minor chest acne which I’ve never had before

numbers are going up on the weights. Hunger is through the roof, lots more boners but still low desire for sex or fapping. Just trying to keep going through the motions so I’m not wasting my time on drugs

Non primal Reta is in the mix but has become way to easy to eat through than before test. Having to keep daily log so I stay at 2500-3000.

Lastly, Primal customer support has been top notch. 3 orders, all correct and delivered fast, one complaint that was dealt with generously.

Thanks for the opportunity and 400 pages of entertainment

One more. What’s your daily water intake

 

[Civdiv]

Grannies CAN be hot. Thank you!! Lol

I am cutting right now and am running 350 test e, 210 Mast P, and 105 Tren all in daily injections . 40mcg clen currently and just put back in var at 50. Workouts have been great. No complaints.

Running almost the exact same. 350/300/105. Added 50mg var about a week ago. Definitely no complaints. We'll see how the next 5 weeks go.

 

[AllGoodThings]

To an extent yes but he goes over the top. How long you been doing gear ? You still alive ? Grown a 3rd nipple ? Leg fall off ?

I think the vetting Meso has had has been pretty good without the over the top extreme shit.

It seems it's difficult to have everyone agree on what's acceptable vs what's over the top extreme when it comes to vetting of sources and acceptable risk. I appreciate that I'm probably farther to the one end of the spectrum than most, and I don't expect many, or most even, to agree with me. I also admit that my knowledge is limited, and I don't have the necessary education or experience to have my opinion matter much at all. The "me" from 15-20 years ago that was riding a turbo charged gsxr1000 and taking ridiculous amounts of tren would laugh at the me today and probably call myself a few names lol When I started caring how long I live, mostly after having a kid, and the prospect of being a grandfather someday, I've tried to hold on to my physique goals while mitigating as much risk as possible. I realize I can't have both perfect health, and maintain my current look indefinitely, but the desire to make this as safe as possible has definitely pushed me to exploring all possible negative aspects of gear use, including unknowns that are more nuanced. I'm going to have to make a decision some day to just accept trt with whatever mass that allows me to maintain, but until then I just want to mitigate as much risk as possible.

I think about how unusual internet interactions are when compared to real life. I think many of us here, had we met randomly at the gym, would probably get along pretty well. Casual gym convo rarely gets into such nuanced discussions as we end up having here, and odd personality quirks aren't as likely to rear their heads as they are with online stuff. I can see myself getting along with most anyone here, even those I have strong disagreements with over what matters and what doesn't with gear safety and testing.

 

[Dial It In]

It seems it's difficult to have everyone agree on what's acceptable vs what's over the top extreme when it comes to vetting of sources and acceptable risk. I appreciate that I'm probably farther to the one end of the spectrum than most, and I don't expect many, or most even, to agree with me. I also admit that my knowledge is limited, and I don't have the necessary education or experience to have my opinion matter much at all. The "me" from 15-20 years ago that was riding a turbo charged gsxr1000 and taking ridiculous amounts of tren would laugh at the me today and probably call myself a few names lol When I started caring how long I live, mostly after having a kid, and the prospect of being a grandfather someday, I've tried to hold on to my physique goals while mitigating as much risk as possible. I realize I can't have both perfect health, and maintain my current look indefinitely, but the desire to make this as safe as possible has definitely pushed me to exploring all possible negative aspects of gear use, including unknowns that are more nuanced. I'm going to have to make a decision some day to just accept trt with whatever mass that allows me to maintain, but until then I just want to mitigate as much risk as possible.

I think about how unusual internet interactions are when compared to real life. I think many of us here, had we met randomly at the gym, would probably get along pretty well. Casual gym convo rarely gets into such nuanced discussions as we end up having here, and odd personality quirks aren't as likely to rear their heads as they are with online stuff. I can see myself getting along with most anyone here, even those I have strong disagreements with over what matters and what doesn't with gear safety and testing.

Dude…. I love this (not in a homo way). At the expense of doxing myself due to our interactions and post where we agree I’d give you my whats app info on a DM.

 

[BigDadd7]

It seems it's difficult to have everyone agree on what's acceptable vs what's over the top extreme when it comes to vetting of sources and acceptable risk. I appreciate that I'm probably farther to the one end of the spectrum than most, and I don't expect many, or most even, to agree with me. I also admit that my knowledge is limited, and I don't have the necessary education or experience to have my opinion matter much at all. The "me" from 15-20 years ago that was riding a turbo charged gsxr1000 and taking ridiculous amounts of tren would laugh at the me today and probably call myself a few names lol When I started caring how long I live, mostly after having a kid, and the prospect of being a grandfather someday, I've tried to hold on to my physique goals while mitigating as much risk as possible. I realize I can't have both perfect health, and maintain my current look indefinitely, but the desire to make this as safe as possible has definitely pushed me to exploring all possible negative aspects of gear use, including unknowns that are more nuanced. I'm going to have to make a decision some day to just accept trt with whatever mass that allows me to maintain, but until then I just want to mitigate as much risk as possible.

I think about how unusual internet interactions are when compared to real life. I think many of us here, had we met randomly at the gym, would probably get along pretty well. Casual gym convo rarely gets into such nuanced discussions as we end up having here, and odd personality quirks aren't as likely to rear their heads as they are with online stuff. I can see myself getting along with most anyone here, even those I have strong disagreements with over what matters and what doesn't with gear safety and testing.

@phenominal34 and I go back and forth sometimes, but we never let it get personal, so there's no respect lost. That's the way conversations usually are in real life. I prefer it that way. With that said, sometimes you just don't get a long with someone, or they rub you the wrong way. It happens.

 

[BigDadd7]

Dude…. I love this (not in a homo way). At the expense of doxing myself due to our interactions and post where we agree I’d give you my whats app info on a DM.

 

[phenominal34]

@phenominal34 and I go back and forth sometimes, but we never let it get personal, so there's no respect lost. That's the way conversations usually are in real life. I prefer it that way. With that said, sometimes you just don't get a long with someone, or they rub you the wrong way. It happens.

I agree brother

 

[TanFishMan]

What’s your stats big dog? Ht, Wt BF% age? Tren in first cycle is questionable.

5’10, 165, <15%bf, age 30+, 80oz water daily. 20 minutes direct sun everyday. 7 hours sleep give or take what the 1 year old kid decides. Chronometer to track micros not just macros.

Tren was just to try to feel something after 5 weeks of test which I assume has me fully saturated. Honestly, felt like tirz/reta had a more “noticeable feeling” than first test cycle so far.

 

[AllGoodThings]

@phenominal34 and I go back and forth sometimes, but we never let it get personal, so there's no respect lost. That's the way conversations usually are in real life. I prefer it that way. With that said, sometimes you just don't get a long with someone, or they rub you the wrong way. It happens.

Unfortunately, I was a jerk to @phenominal34 more than once, and it's no excuse, but sometimes internet stuff gets away from me, and the detachment from reality online interactions provide makes it like you're not even interacting with an actual person. We all need to remember there's a human being on the other side of that screen name. I'm sure he wasn't actually injured by my words, but I still apologize for writing the things I did because it's not okay. Disagreements are fine, and debate and discourse can be useful, ad hominem attacks, however, are not useful nor are they acceptable.

 

[Photon]

When I started caring how long I live, mostly after having a kid, and the prospect of being a grandfather someday, I've tried to hold on to my physique goals while mitigating as much risk as possible. I realize I can't have both perfect health, and maintain my current look indefinitely, but the desire to make this as safe as possible has definitely pushed me to exploring all possible negative aspects of gear use, including unknowns that are more nuanced.

Exactly this.
It's no longer as simple as it is once you have people that rely on you or vice versa.
Call me paranoid or whatever but I'd do it and more if I allows me to live slightly longer.

Now how about sharing some of your stash with us, I'm sure it'll significantly reduce your risk as well.

 

[BigDadd7]

Unfortunately, I was a jerk to @phenominal34 more than once, and it's no excuse, but sometimes internet stuff gets away from me, and the detachment from reality online interactions provide makes it like you're not even interacting with an actual person. We all need to remember there's a human being on the other side of that screen name. I'm sure he wasn't actually injured by my words, but I still apologize for writing the things I did because it's not okay. Disagreements are fine, and debate and discourse can be useful, ad hominem attacks, however, are not useful nor are they acceptable.

We've definitely pushed each other's buttons. I've just always understood it was a reaction to the ideas and not the person.

 

[AllGoodThings]

Exactly this.
It's no longer as simple as it is once you have people that rely on you or vice versa.
Call me paranoid or whatever but I'd do it and more if I allows me to live slightly longer.

Now how about sharing some of your stash with us, I'm sure it'll significantly reduce your risk as well.

You're not wrong haha Having a solid supply of most everything makes the temptation to up the dose much more difficult to resist!

 

[BigDadd7]

5’10, 165, <15%bf, age 30+, 80oz water daily. 20 minutes direct sun everyday. 7 hours sleep give or take what the 1 year old kid decides. Chronometer to track micros not just macros.

Tren was just to try to feel something after 5 weeks of test which I assume has me fully saturated. Honestly, felt like tirz/reta had a more “noticeable feeling” than first test cycle so far.

How would you compare it to the way tirz/reta made you feel?

 

[dcfreak]

Running almost the exact same. 350/300/105. Added 50mg var about a week ago. Definitely no complaints. We'll see how the next 5 weeks go.

Hell yeah, man. Great combo!

 

[Dial It In]

5’10, 165, <15%bf, age 30+, 80oz water daily. 20 minutes direct sun everyday. 7 hours sleep give or take what the 1 year old kid decides. Chronometer to track micros not just macros.

Tren was just to try to feel something after 5 weeks of test which I assume has me fully saturated. Honestly, felt like tirz/reta had a more “noticeable feeling” than first test cycle so far.

Brother that’s a lot of water weight at that size (no an insult). That to me sounds like some edema. Have you had a Dexa scan (legit one)? I don’t see inflammation adding that much. 80 on water also shouldn’t push retention that high. Anyone see what I’m missing?

 

[BamaCrazy]

Unfortunately, I was a jerk to @phenominal34 more than once, and it's no excuse, but sometimes internet stuff gets away from me, and the detachment from reality online interactions provide makes it like you're not even interacting with an actual person. We all need to remember there's a human being on the other side of that screen name. I'm sure he wasn't actually injured by my words, but I still apologize for writing the things I did because it's not okay. Disagreements are fine, and debate and discourse can be useful, ad hominem attacks, however, are not useful nor are they acceptable.

He asks for it. lol