MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[RockyP]

I would suggest testing products/batches before selling them. While that means a longer wait for us to purchase, these over/underdose issues could be minimized.

I could go either way on this. There are sources (at least one) who do it this way, but I can see from a business standpoint of inventory management / turnover, possibly doing it as primal has done so far aka making it available for whoever wants it and taking Primal’s goodwill into account before testing comes back. It’s good to have options either way.

 

[Photon]

A minimum requirement on this board, forever, for any source is to post testing on their products, yet this source has 10/58 (17%) without any testing at all, forget about recent testing of the actual batches being sold:

HGH Violet Tops
HGH Green Tops
NAD+
Tren Ace Harm Reduction
L-Carnitine
SS-31
HCG
IGF1-LR3
Sema
Sermorelin

Just sayin. Testing is fundamental. Why does this source get a pass?

This source actually does have alot of testing -- significantly more than alot of sources here. Instead of pushing him to test more, i think the onus is on the buyers to test the products and verify the reports.

(1) Variance testing for tabs (Whats with those 27% o.d adrol caps?)
(2) Oil testing for mg/ml (Why is the mg/ml not matching and off by such a huge margin? Devon for instance used same batch numbers for ALL batches)
(3) GCMS for weird shit in the oil (China oil? Toxic shit? Medication?)

Everyone keeps pushing for him to test more, but what good is a vendor test report if what you receive is not the same as said reports?

Whats even weirder is we have members coming into this thread and saying there needs to be less testing.

 

[BamaCrazy]

I could go either way on this. There are sources (at least one) who do it this way, but I can see from a business standpoint of inventory management / turnover, possibly doing it as primal has done so far aka making it available for whoever wants it and taking Primal’s goodwill into account before testing comes back. It’s good to have options either way.

I agree. He does have the best testing reimbursement around. And we should be testing our gear anyway. But unless he wants the pitchforks to come out he needs to immediately address the over/under quickly.

 

[Photon]

For context, we came out of the gate with more public testing than any new source on Meso and we keep adding reports as they are completed. Our goal is 100 percent coverage across the catalog and continuous testing of active batches, not a once-a-year check like most sources here.

And you got rewarded for it.
In 2 months you became one of the most popular sources here, possibly selling more gear than some UGL vendors who have been here for years.

 

[The Answ3r]

@Primal_Pharma
Keep doing exactly what you’re doing with raw testing and finished product testing. If I were to take anyone’s advice here from a technical standpoint, it would be two guys: @Photon, who’s always asking the right questions about tests, pointing things out, and clearly wants to deepen his understanding and @Sampei, who unfortunately is stuck in Europe so he’s not really relevant for US domestic, but he still knows which materials to use and how to cook gear properly, even with his relatively short run he’s shown he knows what he’s doing.

The theorists can keep dropping PubMed links and wishlist posts. You’ll never please everyone, and if you try, you’ll end up slipping somewhere. So chin up, keep pushing forward, and the guys who value quality will find their way to you.

If nothing else, at least you know that when someone complains about tren color for the 97th time, you’re on the right track.

 

[BigDadd7]

I could go either way on this. There are sources (at least one) who do it this way, but I can see from a business standpoint of inventory management / turnover, possibly doing it as primal has done so far aka making it available for whoever wants it and taking Primal’s goodwill into account before testing comes back. It’s good to have options either way.

He has very goodwill here. He has great testing credit. Lots of tests. Great customer service. But this isnt the first time he's traded on that goodwill and had it backfire. I want him to stick around, keep brewing quality gear, and not implode his operation. Sometimes daddy has to drop a little tough love on his favorite son.

 

[sionnach]

A minimum requirement on this board, forever, for any source is to post testing on their products, yet this source has 10/58 (17%) without any testing at all, forget about recent testing of the actual batches being sold:

HGH Violet Tops
HGH Green Tops
NAD+
Tren Ace Harm Reduction
L-Carnitine
SS-31
HCG
IGF1-LR3
Sema
Sermorelin

Just sayin. Testing is fundamental. Why does this source get a pass?

Which of these were you interested in?

 

[OldGHGuy]

You’re right. We don’t get a pass.

For context, we came out of the gate with more public testing than any new source on Meso and we keep adding reports as they are completed. Our goal is 100 percent coverage across the catalog and continuous testing of active batches, not a once-a-year check like most sources here.

We also run the most generous reimbursement policy here. If you want to test anything yourself, send it in and we will honor it. Hold us to the standard, brother. We will meet it!

Which of these were you interested in?

Not the point at all

 

[Dial It In]

You’re right. We don’t get a pass.

For context, we came out of the gate with more public testing than any new source on Meso and we keep adding reports as they are completed. Our goal is 100 percent coverage across the catalog and continuous testing of active batches, not a once-a-year check like most sources here.

We also run the most generous reimbursement policy here. If you want to test anything yourself, send it in and we will honor it. Hold us to the standard, brother. We will meet it!

Yes you come out with more testing. Yes your reimbursement is great. Your shipping is great and response time. Right now it’s a crossroad. Which way will we go. Things do get buried I agree and I’ve posted dumb shit too. Things like can we get a T400 ment halo tren mix request and what not don’t help either. Your shop your show but there is a reason business fails (not saying you are or will) Over extending on customer request and getting away from the basic principles that made your launch a success deviating from that initial standard is a way it can happen. Yesh nobody is obligated to buy untested gear. I don’t want to hold you to a standard I want you to maintain the standard first. Right now the standard is the out the gate testing and looking at feedback that dog just ain’t gonna hunt. Yes we can test but why are we doing the test for you (yes you didn’t ask). Our test you reimburse on is a way we the customer hold you to your published standards. A check and balance if you will. Your product will get purchased because some don’t care they just want gear. But those are fly by night guys that will move on once their gym dues are up or they aren’t serious about this lifestyle. The serious guys will keep coming back if they see the standard day in and out. Do what you like but like other sources once you run out I wouldn’t sell it til it’s tested. It only takes that one pissed off raw vendor to send you a bag of corn starch that you cook up and sell and then it’s game over. I like you, you seem to be a stand up source and I have some of your stuff. This is a easy fix.

 

[sionnach]

Whats even weirder is we have members coming into this thread and saying there needs to be less testing.

Who wants less testing?

 

[sionnach]

Not the point at all

It wasn't your point. It was my curiosity.

 

[Ateam2023]

This has been Primals Response..

 

[Dial It In]

100%. Absolutely. We’re doing that going forward. It was always the plan, but raws are tough to source right now and most people hate waiting. From here on out you Apes will have to let us finish the process so I don’t get yelled at again. Love ya'll

I’ll wait for correctly dosed gear. It is what it is. It’s a circle. You’ll have it then you won’t. Then someone else will then they won’t and you will. You got a base people will come back when you restock.

 

[BigDadd7]

This has been Primals Response.. View attachment 350052

Hes a good boy!

 

[OldGHGuy]

It wasn't your point. It was my curiosity.

Well, since you're curious I have interest in several on the list but the Premium Violet Tops would be #1, had they not been advertised as a premium product and then have no testing posted. BTW - especially if you're goong to call something "premium" you really should test it to show the consumers why its premium. Im not interested in buying it and sending it out on my own - to me this is the sellers responsibility.

This source has good points and lots of other things to work on. Not really interested in going round and round so I'm going to fade out...

 

[CHIEF M]

Results from Anadrol 50mg. I am guessing they are supposed to 25mg. The mistake I made was sending all 3 caps from same bottle. I am not sure if this oversight is more widespread and I got 6 bottles......I am sure @Primal_Pharma will straighten it all out.

At least I am not crazy, I was wondering why I basically didn't notice the 100mg I was taking everyday.

I got two bottle of 25mg don’t mind if they are mislabeled lol jk but man I’m sure it was mistake

 

[Primal_Pharma]

@Primal_Pharma
Keep doing exactly what you’re doing with raw testing and finished product testing. If I were to take anyone’s advice here from a technical standpoint, it would be two guys: @Photon, who’s always asking the right questions about tests, pointing things out, and clearly wants to deepen his understanding and @Sampei, who unfortunately is stuck in Europe so he’s not really relevant for US domestic, but he still knows which materials to use and how to cook gear properly, even with his relatively short run he’s shown he knows what he’s doing.

The theorists can keep dropping PubMed links and wishlist posts. You’ll never please everyone, and if you try, you’ll end up slipping somewhere. So chin up, keep pushing forward, and the guys who value quality will find their way to you.

If nothing else, at least you know that when someone complains about tren color for the 97th time, you’re on the right track.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

I’d agree with the violet tops. Solely based on the “premium” label. Proof needs to be had with the claim. Otherwise it’s baseless.

Other than that things have been progressing strong. Also remember they are brewing, shipping, answering emails, etc.

Dividing time and running a business is a mother fucker. Everyone comes out strong.

Don’t push these guys into burnout. It comes inevitably. Mistakes get made and corners get cut.

 

[BigDadd7]

Here's my recent bloodwork on 250 test c/week and gh 4iu daily. This is a month after dropping down from 450 test and no gh.

Total T 3060
Free T 1100.1
E2 128
IGF 1 147 (baseline 94)
Z score 0.2 (baseline. -0.7)

I'm working on that E2!

 

[sionnach]

Not really interested in going round and round so I'm going to fade out...

Well, maybe I was gonna be a bro and share but since you're leaving...
Good luck, be safe!