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[Dial It In]

There are guys in here saying they want more discussion about training, gear, etc. I can tell you that virtually every post I have made about gear, dosing, bloodwork, etc has had very little interaction. Zero from the guys saying they want it. Interesting.

I read it big dog. I’m just hesitant to interact is all. But I do learn and can contribute some. Some of you guys are well more versed don’t feel like I’ve got much to offer. Wanna talk building bombs, guns or planning a coordinated complex ambush I’m your guy

 

[Photon]

Wanna talk building bombs, guns or planning a coordinated complex ambush I’m your guy

Well that escalated quickly

 

[BigDadd7]

I read it big dog. I’m just hesitant to interact is all. But I do learn and can contribute some. Some of you guys are well more versed don’t feel like I’ve got much to offer. Wanna talk building bombs, guns or planning a coordinated complex ambush I’m your guy

I love talking about that stuff!
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[TallandSmall]

At this point I just want to see @Primal_Pharma Jano for his violet tops and other products. @Photon appeared to have a one week turnaround to Jano and been looking out for some results since August. Yes I know we can send our own in but I do like to see some baseline before I proceed with that piece. Sure bring in the harm reduction improvements. But isn’t baseline dosages a part of that for harm reduction. Imagine if @DoubleDeez started casually blasting that overdosed Test50. Sure she wouldn’t have enjoyed that.

I’m curious about the turn around times also. My tests have always been quick.

 

[phenominal34]

There are guys in here saying they want more discussion about training, gear, etc. I can tell you that virtually every post I have made about gear, dosing, bloodwork, etc has had very little interaction. Zero from the guys saying they want it. Interesting.

You’re 80yrs old how we supposed to compare bloods, dosing lol just kidding pal. I am at fault for that I do admit. I do take in and absorb what you say tho. You are knowledgeable and experienced!!

 

[Infernalmango]

Hi @Primal_Pharma

Following up.
(1) Does your brewer have any comments?
(2) When can we expect to see the 12 GCMS results? Can we please perform them on the HC compounds in your store?
(3) Are you planning to continue to sell the TRE400?

(Pictures of the vials have now been added to both test reports as of today)

@Primal_Pharma I’ll send the npp 100 and test p 100 if you swap 2 hc products for them. Your replacement and testing credit is juicy enough for me. @Photon could you point my smooth brain in the right direction of which specific tests to request from jano?

 

[AllbrandNew]

I read it big dog. I’m just hesitant to interact is all. But I do learn and can contribute some. Some of you guys are well more versed don’t feel like I’ve got much to offer. Wanna talk building bombs, guns or planning a coordinated complex ambush I’m your guy

I'm with this guy. We clearly need more det cord related activities in here to balance thing out.

 

[Photon]

@Primal_Pharma I’ll send the npp 100 and test p 100 if you swap 2 hc products for them. Your replacement and testing credit is juicy enough for me. @Photon could you point my smooth brain in the right direction of which specific tests to request from jano?

Email for a quote for
2 x Blind AAS HPLC + GCMS test
They will guide you on shipping and payment

I’m curious about the turn around times also. My tests have always been quick.

It's usually 3-4 b/d shipping from US.
Jano's TA is usually 1-3d.
N=1

 

[BigDadd7]

You’re 80yrs old how we supposed to compare bloods, dosing lol just kidding pal. I am at fault for that I do admit. I do take in and absorb what you say tho. You are knowledgeable and experienced!!

Not until next year!

 

[Infernalmango]

Email for a quote for
2 x Blind AAS HPLC + GCMS test
They will guide you on shipping and payment

@Primal_Pharma if you can confirm you’re down for this swap I’ll get it going on my end.

 

[Oldhand]

How many of you jumped on that eq?

This guy! I also played a minor part of the test e 500 being oos.

 

[Dial It In]

I'm with this guy. We clearly need more det cord related activities in here to balance thing out.

Absolutely

 

[BigDadd7]

This guy! I also played a minor part of the test e 500 being oos.

I seriously thought about that 500, but I chickend out due to pip. I've been burned by 400 too many times! I did stock up on the testC250.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Hi @Primal_Pharma

Following up.
(1) Does your brewer have any comments?
(2) When can we expect to see the 12 GCMS results? Can we please perform them on the HC compounds in your store?
(3) Are you planning to continue to sell the TRE400?

(Pictures of the vials have now been added to both test reports as of today)

We’re still sending the 12 compounds. We had planned to ship the full set together once everything was back in stock, but we’ll get what we have out soon and follow with the rest as soon as they land. Please be patient with us. Turnaround is as fast as we can make it. Our testing reimbursement policy is there for exactly this, so you can help cover the verification side while we keep production moving. If anyone wants to send anything in ahead of us, go for it and we will take care of it per policy.

Yes, TRE400 stays on the menu.

No brewer comments right now. He is buried in production and I am not trying to get something thrown at me.

We keep the reimbursement policy juicy so the community can help on this side while we juggle a lot. Thanks for the patience, brother.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

@Primal_Pharma if you can confirm you’re down for this swap I’ll get it going on my end.

Got you covered, brother.

 

[Photon]

We’re still sending the 12 compounds. We had planned to ship the full set together once everything was back in stock, but we’ll get what we have out soon and follow with the rest as soon as they land. Please be patient with us. Turnaround is as fast as we can make it. Our testing reimbursement policy is there for exactly this, so you can help cover the verification side while we keep production moving. If anyone wants to send anything in ahead of us, go for it and we will take care of it per policy.

Yes, TRE400 stays on the menu.

No brewer comments right now. He is buried in production and I am not trying to get something thrown at me.

We keep the reimbursement policy juicy so the community can help on this side while we juggle a lot. Thanks for the patience, brother.

Are there any plans to inform people of this before they purchase TRE400?

To be more specific "this" referring to the bottletop filter plastic dissolving.

 

[Ateam2023]

well lets see, everyone involved is running gear, emotions/anger runs high, I kinda doubt that will happen , "Getting Along" bahahaaahaa

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Are there any plans to inform people of this before they purchase TRE400?

I think the last 5 pages means they're informed, brother lol. Also I wish you would be more clear - the Jano reports says 'suspected'. We still cannot say for a fact that's what it is. Appreciate the scrutiny. Let’s keep the thread factual and not turn “suspected” into “confirmed” until the data says so.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Busy day for me today, just catching up on the hysteria.

To prevent any kneejerk REEEEsponses to what I'm about to say, please let the record show:
I don't want bullshit in my gear. I'm not posing any "pushback" to product improvement. I fully support the quest for better gear. I would absolutely pay a higher price for a product that ensures peace of mind as far as contaminants or other safety concerns.

That said, I'm in no rush to go dumping my gear down the drain, @Primal_Pharma or otherwise. No product or brand I currently use has given me any problems, and blood labs confirm all products are performing their intended tasks. (Side note: I once had some mast that I was nearly convinced gave me wicked diarrhea. I finished the bottle anyway cuz it might've just been a stomach bug. That brand isn't around anymore, but if I'd known you all back then I probably would've sent it in for tests. I do appreciate that guys like @readalot et al are always on the ball for standards, and the new perspective for harm reduction I have because of it.)
Thank you to @Photon for the extra time, money, and effort toward harm reduction through science, but today's posted results, as I read them, only offer more questions:

What exactly are these substances?
Are we certain the peaks have been identified correctly?
Are they contaminants or regularly occurring ambient/background substances for the materials used?
Are they simply undesireables, or do they pose a risk?
What are the risks for humans?
At what concentration do these risks appear?
Are they short term risks with acute symptoms, or only from long term use?
What is the source (steroid raws, MCT, solvents, packaging materials for ingredients, mixing labware, filtration labware, pipettes/tubing/syringes, vials, stoppers, labware used at time of testing, etc)?
Are they present in other products from the same lab, or are they specific to the tren?
Are they present in similar products from other labs?

And many other tangents depending on how specific we want to get. If we want more answers, let's go get them. But we have to be scientific and systematic about it, follow the troubleshooting flowchart, or we run the risk of turning this rabbithole into a goose chase or worse, a witch hunt.
Today this thread went from zero to OMFG RED ALERT way too fast, and from my perspective a few steps were skipped. Relax. Check your E2. Make a plan.
Until we have one, I'm still pinning gobs of gear when I wake up in the morning, and I'll probably even order more to hoard for when the Rawpocalypse really hits hard.

@Photon

 

[The Answ3r]

Alright, let’s pause the never ending debate about cap colors, oil shades and what scent a vial should have. It’s starting to feel like the same song on repeat every five pages.

@Primal_Pharma, what do you have planned for the lineup in the near future? Maybe some ready blends like test p + mast p + tren a, or even long ester mixes like test e + mast e + tren e. A simple test + deca combo could also make life easier for guys who don’t want to juggle three vials at once.

Have you thought about bumping the number of caps, say 50 instead of 30, and adjusting prices a bit to match other vendors?

And have you ever considered adding a few pharma grade products so people can get everything in one place instead of running around to three different shops?