First cycle bloods 10 weeks in - thoughts?

[buck]

Amen. I’m 100% with you. I really don’t take into account any single individual opinion or studies. The best reason why - cardarine has studies that says it causes cancer and other studies that show it prevents cancer. So what you going to do!

Here are some of the studies. Again - nothing conclusive. Esp in our population…for full disclosure, I typically ask ChatGPT to find me studies and then I read them. Here is on of a few.

A Review on Testosterone: Estradiol Ratio—Does It Matter, How Do You Measure It, and Can You Optimize It? - PMC

There is a natural balance between the major sex steroids, testosterone and estradiol, controlled by gonadal secretion and peripheral conversion by aromatase. This balance is impacted by a variety of inborn and acquired conditions, and, more ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I rarely find studies to be definitive. As for some reason people don't like being in a cage all their life being experimented on then being dissected to get the final results. Go figure.
I just look at the totality of things. If there are far more well done studies pointing in one direction. Or 80% of smaller studies pointing in one direction then i tend to think that is the right direction to follow. 1or 2 lab studies are interesting but not conclusive for me. And for me what tends to mimic nature more is likley the way i will go till i have other data.

 

[Jkeepdrop739]

I rarely find studies to be definitive. As for some reason people don't like being in a cage all their life being experimented on then being dissected to get the final results. Go figure.
I just look at the totality of things. If there are far more well done studies pointing in one direction. Or 80% of smaller studies pointing in one direction then i tend to think that is the right direction to follow. 1or 2 lab studies are interesting but not conclusive for me. And for me what tends to mimic nature more is likley the way i will go till i have other data.

Amen. There are more. But testosterone is oddly insanely studied so I’m positive I can find studies to say the opposite. I’m convinced thanks to all of your input I should bring it down. That’s why I posted here. Nothing is worse than the guy that asks for opinions and then shits on what people say. So thanks for providing them.

 

[Jkeepdrop739]

my guesstimate, you'll probably wanna try .25mg adex ED next.

aromasin just sucks imo

as others have said some ratio of test to estrogen is absolute bullshit, you need it in normal male range.

dont use chinese oils, not worth saving like $30 a month.

get your estrogen to normal range and use arimidex

Ok so real question. I’m not married to aromasin. I like the idea of it being suicidal and I’m worried about the rebound. But if I go off cycle, and stick to TRT in about 10-12 weeks, will my e2 rebound as I lower dose of test and lower dose of arimidex? Curious how I manage coming down off cycle if in arimidex. On aromasin, I can jsut decrease dose and the estrogen is gone

 

[Liter O' Test]

Ok so real question. I’m not married to aromasin. I like the idea of it being suicidal and I’m worried about the rebound. But if I go off cycle, and stick to TRT in about 10-12 weeks, will my e2 rebound as I lower dose of test and lower dose of arimidex? Curious how I manage coming down off cycle if in arimidex. On aromasin, I can jsut decrease dose and the estrogen is gone

no you wont have rebound because you will still be taking arimidex. rebound is just the aromatase working again, its nothing exponential or something

youre estrogen is already SKYHIGH so you really shouldnt be worried about any rebound or fluctuations if you are tolerating 100+ e2

if you bring it down to like 30 and then you have some tiny variability when adjusting doses, thats nothing compared to having 100+ all the time

 

[Jkeepdrop739]

no you wont have rebound because you will still be taking arimidex. rebound is just the aromatase working again, its nothing exponential or something

youre estrogen is already SKYHIGH so you really shouldnt be worried about any rebound or fluctuations if you are tolerating 100+ e2

if you bring it down to like 30 and then you have some tiny variability when adjusting doses, thats nothing compared to having 100+ all the time

My estrogen is def high. I jsut have no sides. It’s insane. Zero sides! Ok. Think I’m going to double my aromasin to 12.5 EOD and then retest in 3 weeks and see where we are at. If I’m still having issues, I’ll switch to arimidex. Thx for the help.

 

[Liter O' Test]

My estrogen is def high. I jsut have no sides. It’s insane. Zero sides! Ok. Think I’m going to double my aromasin to 12.5 EOD and then retest in 3 weeks and see where we are at. If I’m still having issues, I’ll switch to arimidex. Thx for the help.

ok be sure to update here.curious what your number will be.

 

[BabaJagga]

My estrogen is def high. I jsut have no sides. It’s insane. Zero sides! Ok. Think I’m going to double my aromasin to 12.5 EOD and then retest in 3 weeks and see where we are at. If I’m still having issues, I’ll switch to arimidex. Thx for the help.

not even water retention? cause that was big one for me.

ive read that if you let run your estrogen high and have water retention, you tend to gain fat in not so ussuall spots. not sure if its accurate but i think its one of the side effects. it was main one why i needed ai.

 

[Jkeepdrop739]

not even water retention? cause that was big one for me.

ive read that if you let run your estrogen high and have water retention, you tend to gain fat in not so ussuall spots. not sure if its accurate but i think its one of the side effects. it was main one why i needed ai.

Nope. None of its crazy. The tightest my abs have ever been in my life!