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[Moulefruit]

Okay, so your OPINNION is purely based on whether a GH product makes you hold less or more water with literally the opposite direction to reality.

Great.

Go back to listening to meathead podcasts instead of putting out info like that for people to learn.

It's a pretty straight forward thing. GH holds water.

NO, not jsut IM water. It gets you bloated. That's literally the number 1 side effect that causes pretty serious problems to most at any "non-wellbeing" dose users. There's literally no argument against that. IT is well documented with plenty of scientific literature AND anecdotes supporting those studies. It's a fact. You are arguing againt a scientific fact.

Still waiting your fatty physique….

I’m talking about reality, experience that I saw between differents HGH

 

[malomkarom]

Still waiting your fatty physique….

I’m talking about reality, experience that I saw between differents HGH

great, have a good one

Most people on here are straight up apes holly fuck

You are talking about fiction. If you have experience with "great" GH that doesn't hold water, you are closer to star wars than reality.

 

[Moulefruit]

great, have a good one

Most people on here are straight up apes holly fuck

You are talking about fiction. If you have experience with "great" GH that doesn't hold water, you are closer to star wars than reality.

Here you can find your dose of reality


Using the Marten HGH, 6ui split in 2 dose, almost zero water retention, enjoy your cheeseburger at mc donald with your 20%body fat, xoxo

 

[Wrangel7]

Yeah,that doesn't look like normal grape seed oil, it's really green.
Everything i read on pharma grape seed oil,would implie that od not normal and safe.

Colour comparison (greener test p was delivered around a year after the deca):

 

[malomkarom]

Here you can find your dose of reality
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Using the Marten HGH, 6ui split in 2 dose, almost zero water retention, enjoy your cheeseburger at mc donald with your 20%body fat, xoxo

What does this have to do with marten gh again?

 

[FIna]

Using the Marten HGH, 6ui split in 2 dose, almost zero water retention, enjoy your cheeseburger at mc donald with your 20%body fat, xoxo

Question for you....myself and a couple mates used the Marten and had to give up with it, loads of site irritation, big red itchy welts. I assume you're getting absolutely none of that? What batch are you on? Mine is JP2163

 

[Moulefruit]

Question for you....myself and a couple mates used the Marten and had to give up with it, loads of site irritation, big red itchy welts. I assume you're getting absolutely none of that? What batch are you on? Mine is JP2163

Got the same reaction for the 2 first injection, and then it totally disappeared
Currently I’m on JM8358 batch

 

[malomkarom]

Got the same reaction for the 2 first injection, and then it totally disappeared
Currently I’m on JM8358 batch

"oh yeah it's all fine, you get non of the side-effects associated with gh and you get big red welts. It's all good, top GH compared to actual tested high quality GH, who needs effects anyways"

 

[juicebro]

Still waiting your fatty physique….

I’m talking about reality, experience that I saw between differents HGH

Side effects are effects too. Therefore no side effects = no effects. I've used pharma GH. If I switch to UGL brand that has less water retention I would think it's garbage.

There was no need for this kind of attitude. You don't have the physique to back it up. Oh and I've never heard anyone pull the "IFBB competitor" card in an argument like it means anything lol. Come on bro.

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On a separate subject I'm starting to think Hilma batch numbers don't mean anything. I keep finding different colored oils with the same batch number and manufacturing date. Not a little different but drastically different. Like green vs orange. And it wasn't just tren. It was primo too. If this is the case these lab tests are meaningless.

Posting this again since every time I mention this it quickly gets buried under those long posts this source makes.

 

[lookito]

Question for you....myself and a couple mates used the Marten and had to give up with it, loads of site irritation, big red itchy welts. I assume you're getting absolutely none of that? What batch are you on? Mine is JP2163

You should inject intramuscular

 

[cadafi]

Side effects are effects too. Therefore no side effects = no effects. I've used pharma GH. If I switch to UGL brand that has less water retention I would think it's garbage.

There was no need for this kind of attitude. You don't have the physique to back it up. Oh and I've never heard anyone pull the "IFBB competitor" card in an argument like it means anything lol. Come on bro.

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On a separate subject I'm starting to think Hilma batch numbers don't mean anything. I keep finding different colored oils with the same batch number and manufacturing date. Not a little different but drastically different. Like green vs orange. And it wasn't just tren. It was primo too. If this is the case these lab tests are meaningless.

Posting this again since every time I mention this it quickly gets buried under those long posts this source makes.

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Damn this is extremely worrysome, how can this even be possible, same batch, same exp date, no way

 

[malomkarom]

Damn this is extremely worrysome, how can this even be possible, same batch, same exp date, no way

Tends to happen. Illegal market and all.
Just goes to show what I've been saying for a bit now. Their tests don't mean anything if it's not met by similiar community tests.

Hilma has been doing this for ages now.

 

[Deltaaaaxxxx]

Side effects are effects too. Therefore no side effects = no effects. I've used pharma GH. If I switch to UGL brand that has less water retention I would think it's garbage.

There was no need for this kind of attitude. You don't have the physique to back it up. Oh and I've never heard anyone pull the "IFBB competitor" card in an argument like it means anything lol. Come on bro.

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On a separate subject I'm starting to think Hilma batch numbers don't mean anything. I keep finding different colored oils with the same batch number and manufacturing date. Not a little different but drastically different. Like green vs orange. And it wasn't just tren. It was primo too. If this is the case these lab tests are meaningless.

Posting this again since every time I mention this it quickly gets buried under those long posts this source makes.

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Well this is more than concerning, hoping we will get a fast answer about that mess.

 

[RoidTeam Support]

Hello and thank you for your messages. It is thanks to these requests that we are able to be in a quality improvement process. We have sent a request to the factory, we will communicate their response to you as soon as possible.

 

[RoidTeam]

On a separate subject I'm starting to think Hilma batch numbers don't mean anything. I keep finding different colored oils with the same batch number and manufacturing date. Not a little different but drastically different. Like green vs orange. And it wasn't just tren. It was primo too. If this is the case these lab tests are meaningless.


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Damn this is extremely worrysome, how can this even be possible, same batch, same exp date, no way

Well this is more than concerning, hoping we will get a fast answer about that mess.

Thank you once again for your question.

Hilma Biocare allows, within a single batch, the replacement of one component with another of equivalent properties. In this case, the oil base was changed from sesame oil to grapeseed oil.

A considerable amount of time has passed, and we can confidently state that no complaints regarding the quality of our products have been received by our store.

You may send any of these vials for testing at the Janoshik laboratory and then publicly share the results on the forum thread. Our store will reimburse your expenses by providing a credit equal to the cost of the analysis (with documented proof), which you can fully apply toward your next order.

 

[malomkarom]

Hilma Biocare allows, within a single batch, the replacement of one component with another of equivalent properties. In this case, the oil base was changed from sesame oil to grapeseed oil.

You just admitted your batch numbers mean nothing.

Batches exist for the very reason that the entire thing is supposed to be THE SAME thing, portioned into 10ml portions.

Imagine buying an iPhone and being told yours is the same as the rest od.the batch, it just comes with android...

 

[RoidTeam]

You just admitted your batch numbers mean nothing.

Batches exist for the very reason that the entire thing is supposed to be THE SAME thing, portioned into 10ml portions.

Imagine buying an iPhone and being told yours is the same as the rest od.the batch, it just comes with android...

The batch number reflects the production cycle and the multi-stage quality control of the active substance. It guarantees that the concentration, sterility and composition of the active ingredients are consistent in every vial. Changing the carrier oil does not affect the concentration of the active substance, its sterility or the product’s safety.

Using carrier oils with similar properties is a common practice in the pharmaceutical field. Any such substitution is carried out only after appropriate testing to ensure it does not affect the quality or efficacy of the product. Every batch undergoes a full cycle of testing, and if changing the oil could affect quality, the batch would simply not be released for sale.

For maximum transparency, we have also offered the forum member to carry out an independent laboratory analysis with all costs reimbursed.

 

[malomkarom]

The batch number reflects the production cycle and the multi-stage quality control of the active substance. It guarantees that the concentration, sterility and composition of the active ingredients are consistent in every vial.

It does not. The test for one is not a test for the other. It can't be the same production cycle if the components changed, it's 2 cycles done after one another. It does not guarantee that the concentration sterility and composition of the active ingredients are consistent in every vial, as they are a different brew.

Using carrier oils with similar properties is a common practice in the pharmaceutical field.

No it's not what the fuck

Every batch undergoes a full cycle of testing, and if changing the oil could affect quality, the batch would simply not be released for sale.

It does not undergo a full cycle of testing if a part of the batch is a different brew. It does affect the quality, as people might be allergic to one but not the other oil and they are not told which one they are getting sent.

For maximum transparency, we have also offered the forum member to carry out an independent laboratory analysis with all costs reimbursed.

For maximum transparency you should test every brew.
The forum member is not the one that should test their shit and pay forward for every vial they get, as it seems ordering multiple vials of the same shit from the same batch they could very much get a different brew for every vial, so the costs go up considerably, with now even more felonies the customers have to commit.

Changing the carrier oil does not affect the concentration of the active substance, its sterility or the product’s safety.

We don't have any reason to believe that, as again, it's a different brew.
For the record, you don't know either if you don't test it.

Edit: it's crazy how stupid you think we are. How do you have the guts to say all that holly shit.

 

[RoidTeam Support]

STRENGTH IS IN REAL REVIEWS

The final word is always yours.

Ordered some things today from Hilma. Have to say their support is definitely on point, getting answers back really fast. Looking forward to my package and try out the products!

Can really recommend hilma, there are few labs that use real carrier oil that do not cause damage to the body, we add enough stress to our bodies with high hormon, and with hilma it is organic carrier oil like sesame oil, which does not create inflammation that you want to avoid! Hilma

get goods. shipping was super... super fast, eu dom., packaging super stealth. Communication fine, online shop uncomplicated. I'm curious about the effect of somatrop lab., all in all, highly recommended...enjoying my cycle now with the sustanon from somatrop lab.
Very satisfied!

Thank you for your trust — it’s the best measure of our work.

 

[Deltaaaaxxxx]

The batch number reflects the production cycle and the multi-stage quality control of the active substance. It guarantees that the concentration, sterility and composition of the active ingredients are consistent in every vial. Changing the carrier oil does not affect the concentration of the active substance, its sterility or the product’s safety.

Using carrier oils with similar properties is a common practice in the pharmaceutical field. Any such substitution is carried out only after appropriate testing to ensure it does not affect the quality or efficacy of the product. Every batch undergoes a full cycle of testing, and if changing the oil could affect quality, the batch would simply not be released for sale.

For maximum transparency, we have also offered the forum member to carry out an independent laboratory analysis with all costs reimbursed.

A batch according to google is : a quantity or consignment of goods produced at one time.