Wuhan Wansheng Biotechnology Co., Ltd. (USA, International)

Talked pretty much to all the reps. China seems to not be dead at all. 2 sources got raided, some vendors played it safe and closed. Thats it. Production is still rolling. A lot of peptide still makes peptides/GH/GLP1s and that wont stop. Only AAS seems to be short. For whats its worth, they seem to still have a source and are not "selling the leftovers".
Thank you... people are panicking like it's the end of china...
chill out it's only been a week
 
Talked pretty much to all the reps. China seems to not be dead at all. 2 sources got raided, some vendors played it safe and closed. Thats it. Production is still rolling. A lot of peptide still makes peptides/GH/GLP1s and that wont stop. Only AAS seems to be short. For whats its worth, they seem to still have a source and are not "selling the leftovers".

Yeah, every couple of weeks for the last year we get word from someone's "connection" that there's a factory pumping out plenty of fresh AAS raws.

They just happen to choose to make weird low demand raws, not, you know, Test Cyp or Primo. Definately not scraps coming out of the depths of storage.
 
Sì, ogni due settimane, nell'ultimo anno, abbiamo ricevuto notizie da un "collegamento" di qualcuno che ci ha detto che c'è una fabbrica che sforna un sacco di materie prime AAS fresche.

Semplicemente scelgono di produrre materie prime strane e a bassa richiesta, non, sai, Test Cyp o Primo. Di sicuro non scarti che escono dalle profondità dei magazzini.
Fuck primo we need more tren
 
Oh good that you got directed there also, i'm always skeptical.

I initially seen your comment and pic above and thought WTF I was quoted 10x what you had been!

Haven't ordered yet though.
How many times are you going to post the same message?

Are you some kind of bot that’s gone haywire?
 
Yeah, every couple of weeks for the last year we get word from someone's "connection" that there's a factory pumping out plenty of fresh AAS raws.

They just happen to choose to make weird low demand raws, not, you know, Test Cyp or Primo. Definately not scraps coming out of the depths of storage.
Well China is kinda the world factory of EVERYTHING. And its just as big as the US. For 1 fast food you have, they have 1 big factory making stupid stuff we consume. If there is demand, there will be offer. Since 2019 the US is trying to stop the chinese fentanyl, with moderate success (fentanyl death are slowing down, but its still a blood bath, considering the ressources allowed), do you really think they're going to make STEROIDS OILS vanish ? Please.
Primo and mast might vanish, at best.
 
Thats the new prices.

Last year 10x Primo 200 only 220 usd.
Now: 750 usd.

Or: 20x Test E for 80 usd. Now: 300 usd.
10x Tren E 110 usd. Now: 330 usd.

and it will become even more expensive.
But I don't understand. Have the raw materials run out in the universe and will no longer be produced? I understand the delays due to investigations, but as with everything, the market continues... we've been in this situation for months now.
 
But I don't understand. Have the raw materials run out in the universe and will no longer be produced? I understand the delays due to investigations, but as with everything, the market continues... we've been in this situation for months now.
Yes, raw material shortages and stricter laws in China. Even in China, many things are sold out due to a lack of raw materials.
 
Yes, raw material shortages and stricter laws in China. Even in China, many things are sold out due to a lack of raw materials.
Yes, I understand. I just hope that everything goes back to normal. If prices remain like this or continue to rise, it won't make sense to continue buying oils/aas from China.
 
Yes, I understand. I just hope that everything goes back to normal. If prices remain like this or continue to rise, it won't make sense to continue buying oils/aas from China.
But it does make sense. Where do domestic sellers get their raw materials from? From China. The raw materials will either be very expensive or unavailable at all. Domestic sellers will also have to adjust their prices to avoid losses. Domestic prices will be three to four times higher than current Chinese prices. Unless a new market opens up, like India. But that will take a very long time. So, as soon as the domestic sellers run out of the old, cheapest raw materials, prices there will also rise sharply.
 
But it does make sense. Where do domestic sellers get their raw materials from? From China. The raw materials will either be very expensive or unavailable at all. Domestic sellers will also have to adjust their prices to avoid losses. Domestic prices will be three to four times higher than current Chinese prices. Unless a new market opens up, like India. But that will take a very long time. So, as soon as the domestic sellers run out of the old, cheapest raw materials, prices there will also rise sharply.
Solution Is just produce more raw materials in china


Ahahahah ..

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But it does make sense. Where do domestic sellers get their raw materials from? From China. The raw materials will either be very expensive or unavailable at all. Domestic sellers will also have to adjust their prices to avoid losses. Domestic prices will be three to four times higher than current Chinese prices. Unless a new market opens up, like India. But that will take a very long time. So, as soon as the domestic sellers run out of the old, cheapest raw materials, prices there will also rise sharply.
The India raws market has already opened. Check out OEP.
 
Yes, raw material shortages and stricter laws in China. Even in China, many things are sold out due to a lack of raw materials.
Those laws are 5 years old. When did QSC started ?

Raw materials shortage, sure. But that could change. Just as much as much as those last 6 months where this is basicly the US that pushed China to chase sources (for multiple reasons but mostly : fentanyl and his analogues and probably GLP1s that is a multiple billion US market). That could change aswell. We might lose some compounds, some for a moment, some indefinitly. But saying china sources "are done" is stupid.
 
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