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[BigDadd7]

The topic of undercrimping was raised earlier. I assume that had something to do with it.

Glad your vial seals aren't loose. My Primals aren't loose FTR. Just very easy to rotate.

I went through my entire stock yesterday. They were all tight. I didn't try to death grip turn them. Sounds like he just had a bad run on a few.

 

[BigDadd7]

Question: what makes the violet tops better (or more “premium”) than the black tops? They’re both the same dosage. I searched this thread and didn’t find anything.

Just trying to determine if I should get the violets instead next time.

We're still waiting on test results to determine that. I imagine he was told they were better raws when he ordered them.

 

[readalot]

Strive Pharmacy

Thanks for the mention. 503A pharmacy. I understand why some compare higher standard UG labs to compounders. Seems fair to me.

Some of those products on their website are pretty funny. Appreciate the info.

 

[mr.redpill]

Houston - the eagle has landed. T/a precisely 41 hours. Vials bubble wrapped and taped, inside a papper wrap (also taped), inside a bubble mailer, inside another bubble mailer. Nice work. I always get worried about my peptides degrading in a hot cargo hold or sitting in a delivery van all day. The short t/a definitely puts my mind at ease.

 

[RockyP]

Thanks for the mention. 503A pharmacy. I understand why some compare higher standard UG labs to compounders. Seems fair to me.

Some of those products on their website are pretty funny. Appreciate the info.

Empower makes Test C and E and runs both 503A and 503B arms. It doesn't seem to specify which branch formulates the test.

Additionally, here's a 2021 warning letter that Empower did not meet the 503B standards during an FDA inspection. This is why all of these designations need to be treated with a healthy amount of skepticism. The only real solution is to test everything ourselves.

Empower Clinic Services, LLC dba Empower Pharmacy - 613792 - 10/15/2021

Compounding Pharmacy/Adulterated Drug Products

www.fda.gov

And yes, Strive is a clown show...

 

[hawk1g]

Houston - the eagle has landed. T/a precisely 41 hours. Vials bubble wrapped and taped, inside a papper wrap (also taped), inside a bubble mailer, inside another bubble mailer. Nice work. I always get worries about my peptides degrading in a hot cargo hold or sitting in a delivery van all day. The short t/a definitely puts my mind at ease.

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honest question, i love primal and hes the goat in the making but genuinely curious, why do some of you rather pay per vial of peptides instead of getting kits? can get full kits of reta and bpc that would come out cheaper.

 

[mr.redpill]

honest question, i love primal and hes the goat in the making but genuinely curious, why do some of you rather pay per vial of peptides instead of getting kits? can get full kits of reta and bpc that would come out cheaper.

The short answer here is I really don't need 10 vials of retatrutide lol. Those 3 vials will last >7 months @ 3mg/week - which in my understanding is almost pushing the envelope on shelf-life (I could be wrong). Kinda no point (for me) in buying a kit if I'm gonna have to toss more than half of it in 8 months time. Same goes for the BPC. I'm sure it’s worth it though for those running more than therapeutic doses.

 

[Photon]

The short answer here is I really don't need 10 vials of retatrutide lol. Those 3 vials will last >7 months @ 3mg/week - which in my understanding is almost pushing the envelope on shelf-life (I could be wrong). Kinda no point (for me) in buying a kit if I'm gonna have to toss more than half of it in 8 months time. Same goes for the BPC. I'm sure it’s worth it though for those running more than therapeutic doses.

I'm almost certain it can last at least a few years in the fridge..no testing data to back up my claim tho.

 

[hawk1g]

The short answer here is I really don't need 10 vials of retatrutide lol. Those 3 vials will last >7 months @ 3mg/week - which in my understanding is almost pushing the envelope on shelf-life (I could be wrong). Kinda no point (for me) in buying a kit if I'm gonna have to toss more than half of it in 8 months time. Same goes for the BPC. I'm sure it’s worth it though for those running more than therapeutic doses.

gotcha that makes sense and you can use a vial for 5-6 weeks before it gets iffy, but as long as vial is clear and not cloudy your good to go. im a glp1 nerd as i was a fat fuck at 440 pounds over a year ago, currently at 240. still on reta til i get to about 215ish.

 

[Earthworm Jim]

The short answer here is I really don't need 10 vials of retatrutide lol. Those 3 vials will last >7 months @ 3mg/week - which in my understanding is almost pushing the envelope on shelf-life (I could be wrong). Kinda no point (for me) in buying a kit if I'm gonna have to toss more than half of it in 8 months time. Same goes for the BPC. I'm sure it’s worth it though for those running more than therapeutic doses.

I don't think you have to worry about shelf life until you reconstitute them

 

[Photon]

gotcha that makes sense and you can use a vial for 5-6 weeks before it gets iffy, but as long as vial is clear and not cloudy your good to go. im a glp1 nerd as i was a fat fuck at 440 pounds over a year ago, currently at 240. still on reta til i get to about 215ish.

On the plus side if he ordered from SSA or SRY, maybe he would have lost money instead

 

[readalot]

Empower makes Test C and E and runs both 503A and 503B arms. It doesn't seem to specify which branch formulates the test.

Additionally, here's a 2021 warning letter that Empower did not meet the 503B standards during an FDA inspection. This is why all of these designations need to be treated with a healthy amount of skepticism. The only real solution is to test everything ourselves.

Empower Clinic Services, LLC dba Empower Pharmacy - 613792 - 10/15/2021

Compounding Pharmacy/Adulterated Drug Products

www.fda.gov

And yes, Strive is a clown show...

No need to go back that far. They are regulars on the list. Thanks for bringing that topic up. Wonderful bathroom reading, lol.

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/human-drug-compounding/compounding-inspections-recalls-and-other-actions#E

Ouch...
https://web.archive.org/web/20250506103522/https://www.fda.gov/media/182593/download

 

[mr.redpill]

I'm almost certain it can last at least a few years in the fridge..no testing data to back up my claim tho.

Gtfo of here wait really?

 

[hawk1g]

I don't think you have to worry about shelf life until you reconstitute them

thats correct, shelf life only stars after you add bac water. they are good in the freezer for 2-3 years before adding bac water.

 

[hawk1g]

Gtfo of here wait really?

yes, kinda why getting kits makes sense, i have enough reta and tirz in my freezer for 4 years lol. put them in freezer still lyophilized and they good for 2-4 years

 

[readalot]

Gtfo of here wait really?

Simple accelerated aging math would support. I posted some stuff up on another thread. Basic activation energy arguments. Nothing much happening at 4 deg C for a long time.

Any peptides I would store in fridge for YEARS. Just like most all else (MCT oils, raws, etc.).

 

[mr.redpill]

yes, kinda why getting kits makes sense, i have enough reta and tirz in my freezer for 4 years lol

See now I'm even more flabbergasted because I read (more than once) that we shouldn't be freezing peptides?

I always thought that unconsituted shelf life is like </=1year and now I find out that I can put my BPC in fuckin cryo-sleep. Sick.

 

[hawk1g]

See now I'm even more flabbergasted because I read (more than once) that we shouldn't be freezing peptides?

I always thought that unconsituted shelf life is like </=1year and now I find out that I can put my BPC in fuckin cryo-sleep. Sick.

you dont wanna freeze peptide after reconstituted for most peptides but according to jano reefrezing tirz or reta after recon has minimal purity loss on thaw, but i see no reason to do that.

but yes most peptides are good in freer for a lot longer before recon.

 

[readalot]

See now I'm even more flabbergasted because I read (more than once) that we shouldn't be freezing peptides?

I always thought that unconsituted shelf life is like </=1year and now I find out that I can put my BPC in fuckin cryo-sleep. Sick.

Overkill if you will be reconstituting within next 3 to 5 years. Team Fridge. "95/5" rule.

 

[mr.redpill]

Simple accelerated aging math would support. I posted some stuff up on another thread. Basic activation energy arguments. Nothing much happening at 4 deg C for a long time.

Any peptides I would store in fridge for YEARS.

The fuck. I wish I learned this a week ago before I shitcanned 8 vials of TB-500 (holding gun in mouth emoji)