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Recomping effects of tren possible at 100-120mg/w?

RockyP said:
Not really. People who cant achieve their goals, dont know how to diet / train, aren’t honest with themselves about their genetics, etc all think everyone lies about dosages. Thats the sad fact. You must understand that when you say things like this you are announcing to the world that you have no idea what you are doing in this sport, and / or that you have shit genetics and haven’t come to terms with reality. Nobody who is confident in their abilities says things like this.
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BamaCrazy said:
I hope Mishka is lying. lol
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There's a few of us I guess. Seems like a reasonable guy, would be a shame if he really was on 5g+ for nothing. He talks like he genuinely thinks those are the doses, but especially for those results, I just pray his gear of bunk or close to it.
 
RockyP said:
Not really. People who cant achieve their goals, dont know how to diet / train, aren’t honest with themselves about their genetics, etc all think everyone lies about dosages. Thats the sad fact. You must understand that when you say things like this you are announcing to the world that you have no idea what you are doing in this sport, and / or that you have shit genetics and haven’t come to terms with reality. Nobody who is confident in their abilities says things like this.
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No self pics I wonder why. Have a good day
 
eery said:
How can you claim such a thing? thats ludacris.

Some people lie, but now a days, A LOT of people are honest about their use.

Why would it be the case that everyone is lying and how can you speak on the behalf of EVERYONE? thats a bit extreme.
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Perhaps he meant it more as a general statement, and not specifically to include every-single-person-ever. I would generally agree that the majority of pros are not completely forthcoming with the entirety of their use.
 
I think most of the people on Reddit are lying and that doesn't just apply to PED related forums but to all their subreddits. Meso is comforting by comparison
 
demal said:
Can you successfully recomp while eating maintenance at 100-120mg of tren per week, in comparison to common recomping dosages as 200+ mg?

Additional question: if using higher dosages - at what dose do the recomping results start to diminish & the negatives start to outweigh the positives?
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Mate, I regret having to dismantle your ideas, but you must learn how to practice bodybuilding properly.
The principle is simple: bulk, then cut. If you approach your bulking phase with discipline, you won’t accumulate excessive fat, and you’ll grow to appreciate both stages of the process.

The growth phase is by far the most demanding one. At first, eating large quantities feels effortless, but once you reach a certain size… oh my God .

More often than not, the people I see striving for “recomp” are simply too reluctant to commit to cutting and bulking. Don’t waste your time—follow the path the true professionals take.
 
Jaxino said:
Mate, I regret having to dismantle your ideas, but you must learn how to practice bodybuilding properly.
The principle is simple: bulk, then cut. If you approach your bulking phase with discipline, you won’t accumulate excessive fat, and you’ll grow to appreciate both stages of the process.

The growth phase is by far the most demanding one. At first, eating large quantities feels effortless, but once you reach a certain size… oh my God .

More often than not, the people I see striving for “recomp” are simply too reluctant to commit to cutting and bulking. Don’t waste your time—follow the path the true professionals take.
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This is not my thread but I can identify with what you’re saying. I think my problem is similar to what others who want to recomp experience: we want to build muscle without first getting out bf% down to where it needs to be. We want to bulk to gain muscle when we are already sporting 15% plus bf.

I’m in that boat now. I started my blast a month ago at 15%ish and pushed my calories too high. Now I’m scrambling to do damage control.

I’m admitting I made a mistake but don’t want to end my cycle a month in and mess up the hormonal balance I have achieved. Now I’m trying to figure out how to push my body fat down to where it should have been to start with, without giving up on my lifting progress.

My screw up but that’s where I am. And it happens to a lot of us. Kinda leaves us stuck trying recomp.
 
I lie to randos at my gym because it's none of their business. You gotta have some balls to ask someone you don't know about their drug regimen but they do it nonetheless. You would never approach a diabetic and ask them about their insulin use, why is TRT/steroids ok? It's not.

That and I don't need medical advice from some misinformed/misguided judgey fat ass who can't put down the cheeseburgers.

Other than that, I'm honest with friends, family and strangers online. I have not been forthcoming with my Dr. yet as I do not want "steroid abuser" in my medical records.
 
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Grandpa said:
This is not my thread but I can identify with what you’re saying. I think my problem is similar to what others who want to recomp experience: we want to build muscle without first getting out bf% down to where it needs to be. We want to bulk to gain muscle when we are already sporting 15% plus bf.

I’m in that boat now. I started my blast a month ago at 15%ish and pushed my calories too high. Now I’m scrambling to do damage control.

I’m admitting I made a mistake but don’t want to end my cycle a month in and mess up the hormonal balance I have achieved. Now I’m trying to figure out how to push my body fat down to where it should have been to start with, without giving up on my lifting progress.

My screw up but that’s where I am. And it happens to a lot of us. Kinda leaves us stuck trying recomp.
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I'm thinking retrutide plus YK-11 for the follistatin effects. Type II-x wrote a good article on the effects of semaglutide and tirz combined with myostatin inhibitors. Not only did lean muscle loss significantly decrease, fat loss increased drastically when glp-1 was combined with myostatin inhibitor
 
Grandpa said:
This is not my thread but I can identify with what you’re saying. I think my problem is similar to what others who want to recomp experience: we want to build muscle without first getting out bf% down to where it needs to be. We want to bulk to gain muscle when we are already sporting 15% plus bf.

I’m in that boat now. I started my blast a month ago at 15%ish and pushed my calories too high. Now I’m scrambling to do damage control.

I’m admitting I made a mistake but don’t want to end my cycle a month in and mess up the hormonal balance I have achieved. Now I’m trying to figure out how to push my body fat down to where it should have been to start with, without giving up on my lifting progress.

My screw up but that’s where I am. And it happens to a lot of us. Kinda leaves us stuck trying recomp.
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I got kinda fat on my first 2 bulks and I regret nothing. I was natty so it was a little easier to plump up. I was FAT fat before and spent a year and a half in a deficit so I knew how to lose what I put on once it came time to bulk.

Might be different for older guys but in some scenarios looking less than optimal for a few months can pay off in the long run. Unless you have a solid base I don’t see the point in getting sub 10%ish bf, which doesn’t leave as much runway as some of our more advanced brothers have.
 
Grandpa said:
This is not my thread but I can identify with what you’re saying. I think my problem is similar to what others who want to recomp experience: we want to build muscle without first getting out bf% down to where it needs to be. We want to bulk to gain muscle when we are already sporting 15% plus bf.

I’m in that boat now. I started my blast a month ago at 15%ish and pushed my calories too high. Now I’m scrambling to do damage control.

I’m admitting I made a mistake but don’t want to end my cycle a month in and mess up the hormonal balance I have achieved. Now I’m trying to figure out how to push my body fat down to where it should have been to start with, without giving up on my lifting progress.

My screw up but that’s where I am. And it happens to a lot of us. Kinda leaves us stuck trying recomp.
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it is just the mindset that you don't want your efforts to be wasted.
Keep dosage the same and start cutting calories. Cut hard on weekdays and eat plentiful on weekends.
Use tren or anavar
You can recomp a bit if you are not advanced yet
 
demal said:
Can you successfully recomp while eating maintenance at 100-120mg of tren per week, in comparison to common recomping dosages as 200+ mg?

Additional question: if using higher dosages - at what dose do the recomping results start to diminish & the negatives start to outweigh the positives?
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If you are fairly new, yes
 
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