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juicebro said:
What's the situation like? Is the shortage temporary meaning UGL labs will resume producing mast and primo in the future or is it a more permanent kind of thing? I already hoarded up a bunch of vials from my source but they aren't gonna last me longer than a year.

@Ghoul ?
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There’s signs some raws are slowly being produced. But they are being used for finished oils. A lot of sources are starting to get more gear in.
 
krvuxn said:
Seeing the same thing. Lots of non Meso sources reaching out saying they have new batches of finished oils. Mostly test, deca.
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I've also seen more Mast P and even Mast E although the latter seems in less supply. Primo not too much yet, but it looks like some things for the time being are getting a tad better.
 
Ghoul said:
I'm sure long term storage is increasingly coming to mind even among the non-preppers among us.

At the least keep it in the dark. Light is an AAS oil destroyer.

I have more oil than I can reasonably use in a few years so establishing whether freezing was plausible was something I did last year. I went way down that rabbit hole and TLDR it's completely fine.
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Going down this rabbit hole now as I have 5+ years of test. Once taken out of the freezer, how do you get back to regular temp? Let it sit in warm water or does it need to be boiling? I’m guessing let it thaw before heating it as well?
 
BP_6 said:
I've also seen more Mast P and even Mast E although the latter seems in less supply. Primo not too much yet, but it looks like some things for the time being are getting a tad better.
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Prohibition just doesn’t work, we have so many examples. Doesn’t matter what it is. Steroids aren’t an outlier! Luckily for us gear heads.
 
pipo said:
I don't know how he put this price as is cheaper to buy already finish oil

Also price for a kit of 10 vials is higher than it should. You can buy from China at half of price or domestic as the same price per vial but you haven't to buy 10....
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Jaredvc said:
Going down this rabbit hole now as I have 5+ years of test. Once taken out of the freezer, how do you get back to regular temp? Let it sit in warm water or does it need to be boiling? I’m guessing let it thaw before heating it as well?
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IMO keep vials away from water.

This technique works perfectly for crashed vials for me and many here who've used it. One of the main advantages vs other techniques is it seems to prevent recrashing in almost every case, possibly because of more complete melting of AAS crystals. Invisible crystals not fully dissolved can act as a "seed" that makes the vial more susceptible to crashing again.

(allow frozen vials to come to room temp first)

Preheat your oven to the lowest baking temp, usually 170f. Put your sealed (do not pierce or loosen stopper) vials on a tray or equivalent on the middle rack.

45 minutes, remove with a towel and gently shake. They'll fully go back into solution and won't recrash.

(yes, the bromobutyl stopper, plastic cap, carrier oil, BA, BB, and steroid are all perfectly safe and won't degrade at 170f, which is cooler than a typical coffee serving temp).
 
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Ghoul said:
IMO keep vials away from water.

This technique works perfectly for crashed vials for me and many here who've used it. One of the main advantages vs other techniques is it seems to prevent recrashing in almost every case, possibly because of more complete melting of AAS crystals. Invisible crystals not fully dissolved can act as a "seed" that makes the vial more susceptible to crashing again.

(allow frozen vials to come to room temp first)

Preheat your oven to the lowest baking temp, usually 170f. Put your sealed (do not pierce or loosen stopper) vials on a tray or equivalent on the middle rack.

45 minutes, remove with a towel and gently shake. They'll fully go back into solution and won't recrash.

(yes, the bromobutyl stopper, plastic cap, carrier oil, BA, BB, and steroid are all perfectly safe and won't degrade at 170f, which is cooler than a typical coffee serving temp).
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Thank you
 
Just out of curiosity after all these months. Why is it only qsc out of all the Chinese vendors supposedly still under investigation and had their whole operation supposedly closed down. None of the other resellers seem to be in a similar situation. I know the factories were raided so is it because they only worked with one factory? Supposedly they only produced their own hgh so why weren’t other resellers targeted in a similar manner. Or is the whole qsc story fabricated and Tracy really did exit scam and now he’s just clearing left over stock to pay for more hookers?
 
Jeffholio5 said:
Just out of curiosity after all these months. Why is it only qsc out of all the Chinese vendors supposedly still under investigation and had their whole operation supposedly closed down. None of the other resellers seem to be in a similar situation. I know the factories were raided so is it because they only worked with one factory? Supposedly they only produced their own hgh so why weren’t other resellers targeted in a similar manner. Or is the whole qsc story fabricated and Tracy really did exit scam and now he’s just clearing left over stock to pay for more hookers?
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people theorized that they were more than just resellers, they had their own brew, plus slightly better prices than anyone else.
so either VERY very close with a factory or real producers.
Or tracy/his partners are partying in the maldives with more hookers than packages shipped out during the reopening.
 
Jeffholio5 said:
Just out of curiosity after all these months. Why is it only qsc out of all the Chinese vendors supposedly still under investigation and had their whole operation supposedly closed down. None of the other resellers seem to be in a similar situation. I know the factories were raided so is it because they only worked with one factory? Supposedly they only produced their own hgh so why weren’t other resellers targeted in a similar manner. Or is the whole qsc story fabricated and Tracy really did exit scam and now he’s just clearing left over stock to pay for more hookers?
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We'll never know. It's worth noting many of the shadier Chinese vendors that trade via cryptocurrency exist to serve a much more valuable business, sneaking money out of China. You can only move $50,000 per person per year out of China (where it's vulnerable to confiscation, investments are all manipulated by the government so you can't park your cash there safely either), so "Money trafficking" is big business. Official crypto sales are all tracked, so businesses flying under the radar like QSC could sell the crypto and cash they earn that's parked safely outside China for a significant premium.

Not saying QSC did this, but many if not most do. If Chinese officials catch it, it's a "get the fuck out of China asap" crime, much worse than low level drug dealing. You're stealing from the communist party.
 
Ghoul said:
We'll never know. It's worth noting many of the shadier Chinese vendors that trade via cryptocurrency exist to serve a much more valuable business, sneaking money out of China. You can only move $50,000 per person per year out of China (where it's vulnerable to confiscation, investments are all manipulated by the government so you can't park your cash there safely either), so "Money trafficking" is big business. Official crypto sales are all tracked, so businesses flying under the radar like QSC could sell the crypto and cash they earn that's parked safely outside China for a significant premium.

Not saying QSC did this, but many if not most do. If Chinese officials catch it, it's a "get the fuck out of China asap" crime, much worse than low level drug dealing. You're stealing from the communist party.
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Fun fact, A lot of corruption and Kickbacks happen with the backing of communist party officials. They give their blessings and get their cut, till they do something that gets Chairman displeased with them
 
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