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Well, at the very least I feel uneducated. At least that's fixable. Still, I have a suspicion that my intellect has taken a decent hit due to so many years of ped use. I believe that's a known effect, but I've never really seen metrics on the impact of sustained use over very long periods of time. I also wonder which compounds are the worst in that regard.
 
Well, at the very least I feel uneducated. At least that's fixable. Still, I have a suspicion that my intellect has taken a decent hit due to so many years of ped use. I believe that's a known effect, but I've never really seen metrics on the impact of sustained use over very long periods of time. I also wonder which compounds are the worst in that regard.
Same here. You still got plenty left.
 
Mot-c, SLUpp, 5-amino 1MQ, all the same feedback
Most of the "data" we have on them is marketing science straight from the people manufacturing and selling them. We need more published clinical, repeatable, results. I'm hesitant to try any of them. The anecdotes are all over the place. Most of the positive feedback can easily be written off as placebo and individual subconscious protection against buyer's remorse.

People are desperate for a quick and easy fix. Look at AOD-9604 - we have actual data that it doesn't work (it was abandoned during trials because of a clear lack of results) and suckers still buy it and pin it.

Im using them all now. I think im getting something out of it. But its impossible to know. I am getting very lean, but then again I would be anyway.

Who knows, there may be something to them. What were your dosages and frequency? What were the perceived effects? Sure, you don't have the means to analyze results on a cellular or molecular level, but you're still a pioneer. The best thing you can do is introduce them one at a time and keep a logbook. And get labs if possible to correlate other data.
I'm aware you probably don't care that much. But What Would @readalot Do? :p
 
Lol that's funny . I actually thought he was serious! I'm like what kind of crap is this to rip people off during these times. Primal your packaging is great. Keep up the great work brother.
 
Most of the "data" we have on them is marketing science straight from the people manufacturing and selling them. We need more published clinical, repeatable, results. I'm hesitant to try any of them. The anecdotes are all over the place. Most of the positive feedback can easily be written off as placebo and individual subconscious protection against buyer's remorse.

People are desperate for a quick and easy fix. Look at AOD-9604 - we have actual data that it doesn't work (it was abandoned during trials because of a clear lack of results) and suckers still buy it and pin it.



Who knows, there may be something to them. What were your dosages and frequency? What were the perceived effects? Sure, you don't have the means to analyze results on a cellular or molecular level, but you're still a pioneer. The best thing you can do is introduce them one at a time and keep a logbook. And get labs if possible to correlate other data.
I'm aware you probably don't care that much. But What Would @readalot Do? :p
I was on MOTS-C (2.5-10mg subq preworkout), injectable SLU-PP-332 (5mg IM preworkout), oral SLU-PP-332 (1000mcg 3x/day) and injectable 5 Amino 1MQ (5-10mg subq AM), oral 5 Amino 1MQ (50mg preworkout), along with with SS-31(6-15mg subq AM) I was also occasionally taking methylene blue, 5mg 3 to 4x a week. I stopped some of it only because of an injury that's reduced my training intensity and frequency enough that it's not worth me continuing all that. I'm still doing the oral SLU-PP-332 and the SS-31. I have quite a bit of all of it still, and plan to continue the full stack once I'm healed a bit more. The doses are a bit all over the place for the sake of experimentation, and I'll probably bring some higher when I resume. The several thousand dollar question; was any of it doing anything? You know, I don't know exactly what my deal is, but I have trouble "feeling" most things. I also have a habit of changing far too many things at once to be able to attribute positive or negative changes to any one particular thing. I will say that early on, I felt some energy and endurance boosting effects during my workouts. When I came off most of it, I also significantly changed my workouts and intensity due to the injury, so it's not possible to make a direct comparison there. I do know I read quite a bit on these compounds, and it seems the areas of more solid research on some of them were centered around general health and organ protective qualities more than performance enhancement. That's one of the reasons I decided to get so much of these compounds. I also realize that things like this with very limited studies/research may also have unforseen, and potentially serious, negative consequences. For me, for now, I'm going to keep experimenting with them for a while and see what happens.
 
I was on MOTS-C (2.5-10mg subq preworkout), injectable SLU-PP-332 (5mg IM preworkout), oral SLU-PP-332 (1000mcg 3x/day) and injectable 5 Amino 1MQ (5-10mg subq AM), oral 5 Amino 1MQ (50mg preworkout), along with with SS-31(6-15mg subq AM) I was also occasionally taking methylene blue, 5mg 3 to 4x a week. I stopped some of it only because of an injury that's reduced my training intensity and frequency enough that it's not worth me continuing all that. I'm still doing the oral SLU-PP-332 and the SS-31. I have quite a bit of all of it still, and plan to continue the full stack once I'm healed a bit more. The doses are a bit all over the place for the sake of experimentation, and I'll probably bring some higher when I resume. The several thousand dollar question; was any of it doing anything? You know, I don't know exactly what my deal is, but I have trouble "feeling" most things. I also have a habit of changing far too many things at once to be able to attribute positive or negative changes to any one particular thing. I will say that early on, I felt some energy and endurance boosting effects during my workouts. When I came off most of it, I also significantly changed my workouts and intensity due to the injury, so it's not possible to make a direct comparison there. I do know I read quite a bit on these compounds, and it seems the areas of more solid research on some of them were centered around general health and organ protective qualities more than performance enhancement. That's one of the reasons I decided to get so much of these compounds. I also realize that things like this with very limited studies/research may also have unforseen, and potentially serious, negative consequences. For me, for now, I'm going to keep experimenting with them for a while and see what happens.
Pretty similar experiences here.

I have run SLU-PP-322 both injections and oral in doses around 3-4mg daily. I have been on 50mg 5amino oral for 4 weeks now. Currently finishing a SS31 cycle at 5mg daily.

For the slupp I noticed tolerance to cardio improve. Not necessarily output, just my attitude about it. Real scientific, I know. I had 4 bottles of the caps so at this point I am just tossing back 3 or 4 a few times a day. I don't think it is doing much beyond placebo. I would be interested in revisiting this compound with the 20mg doses to see if those are better. With the animal conversion sounds like we would need 50mg-100mg caps to make it worthwhile.

I am on the fence with these but I do generally feel good but who tf knows
 
What Would @readalot Do?
He would be so clinically depressed that he decides to increase UG gear standards as best be can all through his little portal to the Matrix. Give muscle heads a choice after the govt fucked them. Try to make a difference in the brief time left on the little beautiful rock flying through space. And meet come cool characters on the journey.

Eat a bullet, post on MESO...ehh. Tomato, tomatoe. :p
 
He would be so clinically depressed that he decides to increase UG gear standards as best be can all through his little portal to the Matrix. Give muscle heads a choice after the govt fucked them. Try to make a difference in the brief time left on the little beautiful rock flying through space. And meet come cool characters on the journey.

Eat a bullet, post on MESO...ehh. Tomato, tomatoe. :p
Dude sounds like the Elon Musk of gear users!
 
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