GH works better with higher estrogen?

[Stealth500]

Very feminine behaviour just saying…

So sorry a woman hurt you...

How long have you been trying men?

 

[Freeboomboom]

So sorry a woman hurt you...

How long have you been trying men?

You obviously got offended guess why…

 

[Stealth500]

You obviously got offended guess why…

You made an alt account to come here and claim that everyone here is stupid. Which you then equate to femininity. Seems you hate women ; was simply an observation.

You drank the Todd Lee kool-aid, fantastic. Let us know how that works out for your gains and report back.

 

[Stealth500]

Everyone here is a bunch of retards because they are feminine thus need to inject themselves with female sex hormones to better themselves..

Your logic is astounding...

 

[Freeboomboom]

You made an alt account to come here and claim that everyone here is stupid. Which you then equate to femininity. Seems you hate women ; was simply an observation.

You drank the Todd Lee kool-aid, fantastic. Let us know how that works out for your gains and report back.

Alt account?

You just get more dumb and dumb every second, probably even stalking any girls phone naive ass kid.

I’ve been doing this shit since 2009, never been online just saw the fucking lies here and had to save whoever read this from doing a stupid mistake listen to you morons.

You can’t even use your brain 10 sec, proof is in the video from John Jewett i uploaded, well i ain’t expecting you to watch and actually learn something you are way beyond saving.

Some are just immune to knowledge…

Stealth500 in school growing up, whatever he is there to learn. In your head, no thats not true, no thats not true, i don’t believe that and keep banging his head to the wall. Its obvious its damaged by now.

 

[Freeboomboom]

What you morons don’t understand.

There is no studies done on men injecting testosterone and growth hormone doing bloodwork to see if e2 on the higher end result in more or less igf out of the gh.

But there are tons of professional bodybuilders doing that for years with proof from bloodwork, still you morons say its false and refer to studies on women or some other garbage that is irrelevant to men using test and gh, the same rules don’t apply…

 

[Stealth500]

There is no studies done on men injecting testosterone and growth hormone doing bloodwork to see if e2 on the higher end result in more or less igf out of the gh.

No studies = theoretical.

Studies are done in controls that take other drugs and factors into consideration.

 

[Freeboomboom]

No studies = theoretical.

Studies are done in controls that take other drugs and factors into consideration.

It works if it works, you won’t get any studies in the near future so the best we can do is to apply bloodwork.

The HGH Cheat Sheet | Notion

This is some good information i don’t who wrote it but 100% better info than anything on this forum about hgh, even here you see the same conclusion. Im done now.

 

[Stealth500]

It works if it works, you won’t get any studies in the near future so the best we can do is to apply bloodwork.

The HGH Cheat Sheet | Notion

This is some good information i don’t who wrote it but 100% better info than anything on this forum about hgh, even here you see the same conclusion. Im done now.

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Looks like Chat-GPT.. Chat gpt is hard to cite.

I'll teach you how to make this..

open chat gpt and type the following prompt

"give me a brief theoretical breakdown of how HGH and Estrogen work in a synergistic manner to increase IGF-1."

 

[eery]

The ai will decrease your igf.

Anyone saying something else is full of shit.

You are better of using enough test to where you don’t get any e2 side effects and if you need more anabolics use masteron.

Lets say you run 350 test 4iu gh with 50 e2 and you add ai and now have 25 e2 your igf will 100% decrease.

If the AI brings you into a level thats a sweetspot for you, that shouldnt be the case? How woud the AI negatively impact igf1 if you have sufficient estrogen as if you didnt take it, not crashing or lowering your estrogen excessively.. this is the same mistake people make when they say that AIs are bad for you. Yeah they are bad if you reduce your estrogen too much because low estrogen is bad unless its precontest or pre-shoot.

 

[ShutUpAndPump]

If the AI brings you into a level thats a sweetspot for you, that shouldnt be the case? How woud the AI negatively impact igf1 if you have sufficient estrogen as if you didnt take it, not crashing or lowering your estrogen excessively.. this is the same mistake people make when they say that AIs are bad for you. Yeah they are bad if you reduce your estrogen too much because low estrogen is bad unless its precontest or pre-shoot.

No please AI are the devil, let estrogens fly to maximize igf-1 so that growth is optimal, yes the growth of mammary glands

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

@Ghoul Why won't you donate even 1 USD to the group testing fund?

Respectfully.

I "ran him off" lol

 

[readalot]

I "ran him off" lol

Was a respectful Q. I would like to understand. I am trying to come from a place of wonder not judgment

TBH, I bust ass here and want to understand.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Was a respectful Q. I would like to understand. I am trying to come from a place of wonder not judgment

TBH, I bust ass here and want to understand.

He honestly just proves my point.

Nothing more than someone who can throw out theories with no action.

It's easier to make these comments of what "will work" versus execution of testing/data collection.

 

[Stealth500]

I’ve been doing this shit since 2009,

sure thing boss

 

[Stealth500]

I want to know how this guy was able to stew on my post like a nutjob, then come back and alter the edit time to appear as though it was changed in between the back and forth.

 

[Freeboomboom]

I want to know how this guy was able to stew on my post like a nutjob, then come back and alter the edit time to appear as though it was changed in between the back and forth.

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Idiot, english is not my main language and typing fast on the phone make me type wrong thats why the edit…

 

[Stealth500]

Idiot

right.

 

[Freeboomboom]

All the pros knows higher e2 = higher igf by bloodwork and doing this for decades but hey @Ghoul uses chatgpt and tell they are all wrong when he never run bloodwork. Would love to see a picture of his physique, im sure we never will.

Got to love the forums…

 

[eery]

All the pros knows higher e2 = higher igf by bloodwork and doing this for decades but hey @Ghoul uses chatgpt and tell they are all wrong when he never run bloodwork. Would love to see a picture of his physique, im sure we never will.

Got to love the forums…
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does higher serum, or systemic igf1 correlate with local igf1, or that more igf1 is causing more anabolism? or that the higher systemic igf1 levels cause an increase in counterregulatory factors like igfbp1?

from my understanding, you want an estrogen on the moderate to high side, but too high or too low and its a negative towards the anabolic effects of hgh/igf1.

I guess thats why lantus would be more effective for someone with a very high estrogen as it would supress igfbp1 and keeping igf1 more bioavailable(?)