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With careful inspection I can see tiny floaters in some of my gold top vials, and I'm always very careful during reconstitution (break vacuum and slowly drip BAC down the vial side, gentle swirl only to help dissolve). I don't notice any different effect from these vials and have not filtered any; at the worst I suspect I'm losing a tiny% of product in the form of biologically unavailable aggregates. Same applies to 24/36iu kits I have from SSA, so it may just come with the territory of higher iu vials. The K4L supreme vials I have, on the other hand, would almost always would mix cloudy - and they worked too. The lower iu vials I had from HunterPharm and Meditrope always mixed clear.

I'll have Opti green tops here Monday, and will see how they mix up and report back. The 5ml vials are certainly nice to have.

All generic kits regardless of seller (grey/black/blue/gold/green/whatever tops) are made in China, probably from a handful of different manufacturers. Only GH made in USA is true pharma grade (Serostim, Norditropin, Omnitrope, Genotropin, Nutropin) which are expensive af and/or hard to source, not to mention there is a lot of fugazi product out there if not getting it from a pharmacy or an established source. I suppose the new long acting GH products (NGenla, Skytrofa, Sogroya) should be included in that too.

I don't think any floaters are acceptable with Opti's gear. I'd email him. I wouldn't inject it imo.
floaters will be in any source with a very high concentration of HGH so like 30 plus IUs, the 36vials (which are usually 40+ IU in reality to combat the degradation from this exact high concentration problem) will have floaters which are HGH proteins clumped up together, they are not harmful contaminants you can safely inject but in the worst case on a long enough time scale they can cause immune reactions to the thing.

Also you are most likely not using enough BAC water to dissolve. Adding more water to those high concentration vials usually solves the floater issue. Try to fill it up
 
floaters will be in any source with a very high concentration of HGH so like 30 plus IUs, the 36vials (which are usually 40+ IU in reality to combat the degradation from this exact high concentration problem) will have floaters which are HGH proteins clumped up together, they are not harmful contaminants you can safely inject but in the worst case on a long enough time scale they can cause immune reactions to the thing.

Also you are most likely not using enough BAC water to dissolve. Adding more water to those high concentration vials usually solves the floater issue. Try to fill it up
I just used 3ml bac hospira water in a new gold top vial. crystal clear. .
 
how fast for a shipping tracker usa domestic order? paid on 23rd...5 days for shipping? ain't shipped yet.
It happens. Seems like shipping is done in batches, either every X number of days, or after a certain number of orders has built up. I've had orders take a week to ship, I've had orders ship next day.
 
Hi all,

Trainer designed this cycle for me. I would get fever every time when I inject. Needles are sterile. Good injection technique. Gear is good, sourced from opti. Bloodwork was good before starting, no inflammation, have done 3 months of 200mg per week pharma trt in the past.

But this cycle doesn't seem to be working. I ran this for 3 weeks thinking it would go away but had to stop because normal life stuff was getting in the way of annoying fever everyday.

Any thoughts?

His test P like others can PIP. This can cause low grade inflammation and fever even without presence of pain. (Late response but this might help someone reading it. )


Add 10% EO (ethyl oleate) and it will make it pipless. Pharmacom and other UGLs do this.


EO is a little harder to source since they took down alpha labs a few years back.


A good friend of mine was the brewer for one of the most popular labs in Europe. He could make 150 pg/mL test prop, absolute zero pip and silky smooth/thin as water.
 
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