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[BlackFrog]

Y'all also forget a lot of LEO are on the sauce themselves, lol. Would be a bad look to their name if they were turning around and busting fellow gearheads.

Not that it doesn't happen but it's some reassurance.

 

[readalot]

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/wada-davis-internet-surveillance.pdf

I'm sure this has made the rounds before. I found it in a Google search for Meso it's like the second hit. A bit dated but gives a pretty thorough write up of LE's infiltration of steroid forums. Meso is named but much have been a smaller plate at the time.

Dated but good read for everyone. Hilarious they state that MESO is unreliable. Lmao.

 

[Ghoul]

Just FYI WADA isn't LE.

The canary in the coalmine of the feds interest in AAS would be when they go after anyone who's had raws coming in seized, and that doesn't appear to have happened in many years.

Of the thousands of members here.d has anyone reported that happening in the last decade?

If they seized fentanyl precursors or cocaine, you can be sure you aren't getting a love letter, you're getting a visit.

Though I fear in years ahead, with all the extra customs personell, and much less
contraband coming in, they may lower the bar for who they investigate and prosecute. For now they have to triage for the "serious" stuff. Not enough resources to pursue even a fraction of all contraband recipients.

 

[readalot]

Thank god the feds don't access to the hundreds of thousands of CBP love letters sent over the years. Then they'd know just who was up to what....and have evidence in hand.

Busts would be coming down left and right.

Instead they've been thwarted by the unpenatrable opsec here on MESO, despite round the clock surveillance.

You would do well to not be so sarcastic about the lower probability risks of open forums. It comes off like you think there is no risk posting/sharing stuff here.

 

[Ghoul]

You would do well to not be so sarcastic about the lower probability risks of open forums. It comes off like you think there is no risk posting/sharing stuff here.

I think I have a more realistic perspective on both ends of the situation.

The reality is AAS prosecutions are absolutely minuscule. All indictments at the federal level, and almost all at the state level are searchable. It's less than a few dozen a year, vs millions of users,

If policy turned, and it could, no need to start with complex infiltration and expensive surveillance. They'd go after the low hanging fruit first. Seizures at the border are the easiest leads. Then just order from sources advertising publically and track them down. We haven't seen any indication of either happening yet.

 

[Middus]

You would do well to not be so sarcastic about the lower probability risks of open forums. It comes off like you think there is no risk posting/sharing stuff here.

Spidey sense tingling that the "crackdown on crime" vibe may spread to anything some bureaucrat feels is a crime... Like sourcing AAS and Peps.
It's all about arrest numbers and looking good for the photoshoots.

 

[readalot]

Spidey sense tingling that the "crackdown on crime" vibe may spread to anything some bureaucrat feels is a crime... Like sourcing AAS and Peps.
It's all about arrest numbers and looking good for the photoshoots.

Absolutely and the timing is perfect.

 

[Ghoul]

Spidey sense tingling that the "crackdown on crime" vibe may spread to anything some bureaucrat feels is a crime... Like sourcing AAS and Peps.
It's all about arrest numbers and looking good for the photoshoots.

LE attention tends to follow political or media attention.

You start seeing sensationalist stories about teens having heart attacks being blamed on PEDs, or a celebrity death attributed to it, it would be time to get concerned. In the past, steroid crackdowns followed sports doping scandals.

I get zero vibes the public is anywhere near as anti-steroid or roid rage paranoid as in the past. TRT has gone some way in changing the culture imo.

 

[readalot]

I think I have a more realistic perspective on both ends of the situation.

The reality is AAS prosecutions are absolutely minuscule. All indictments at the federal level, and almost all at the state level are searchable. It's less than a few dozen a year, vs millions of users,

If policy turned, and it could, no need to start with complex infiltration and expensive surveillance. They'd go after the low hanging fruit first. Seizures at the border are the easiest leads. Then just order from sources advertising publically and track them down. We haven't seen any indication of either happening yet.

I hope you are right. You know me, i like a little extra, extra precaution.

 

[sionnach]

A law and order episode. It was some crazy episode on someone with steroids or something like that. The detectives said contact the DEA and see if they can get an undercover agent in the gym. Later on, they asked about the DEA agent. Apparently they were told that the DEA thought steroids weren't a high enough priority to take the time and money to put someone undercover in the gym.

Actually knowing a real life DEA officer in my area who did go to the gym. He told me when I directly asked him. Paraphrasing what he said, at least in my area. If we catch you with it, we will certainly bust you no doubt. However, it generally isn't something in of itself we ever go actively looking for.

I train with LEOs - local, state, and fedbois - and they're all on the magical chinese creatine.

 

[Middus]

I train with LEOs - local, state, and fedbois - and they're all on the magical chinese creatine.

Since when has "Do as I say" = "Do as I do?"
Like Traffic cops and speeding...

 

[Middus]

LE attention tends to follow political or media attention.

You start seeing sensationalist stories about teens having heart attacks being blamed on PEDs, or a celebrity death attributed to it, it would be time to get concerned. In the past, steroid crackdowns followed sports doping scandals.

I get zero vibes the public is anywhere near as anti-steroid or roid rage paranoid as in the past. TRT has gone some way in changing the culture imo.

You mistake criminalization for acceptance.
Try flying with weed and tell me how that goes..

It is one thing to be in acceptance of TRT use. It is another thing to allow sourcing from non-prescription routes.

All this in an environment where imagined criminality makes headlines, and arrests shows "we mean business and keeping you safe."
You cannot even ship vapes again vis USPS.. but okay. Keep up the faith!

All it takes is for 2-3 undocumented individuals to be found running a Domestic warehouse in somewhere like Florida...

 

[Avies48]

Talk to a doctor if you are really that worried.


Are you even symptomatic?

Yeah im working with docs

Yes symptomatic, thats why im now on a cgm… to see when, and stuffs of why this glucose… but its all over the place… for no apparent reason… just drops sometimes like yesterday… drove somewhere and my glucose just slammed to super low… and took a bit to go back up and did this a few times…

 

[readalot]

all you need to know about the UG...


View: https://youtu.be/mH9NzJwldok


Nota Bene

 

[Middus]

I hope you are right. You know me, i like a little extra, extra precaution.

I get more paranoid by the day. ICE (and perhaps customs) wants to link IRS data.. FDA will reside with customs to inspect certain goods, and FDA also wants to link IRS data.
All this link ups cannot be good. A customs letter followed with an FDA letter may end up being accompanied with an IRS letter .
This is overblown I know, but things are happening now that 7 year ago we would have said nah. The only respite is the drawback on federal workers, but if they juice up the system with AI and leave folk to deal with the consequences...

 

[readalot]

I get more paranoid by the day. ICE (and perhaps customs) wants to link IRS data.. FDA will reside with customs to inspect certain goods, and FDA also wants to link IRS data.
All this link ups cannot be good. A customs letter followed with an FDA letter may end up being accompanied with an IRS letter .
This is overblown I know, but things are happening now that 7 year ago we would have said nah. The only respite is the drawback on federal workers, but if they juice up the system with AI and leave folk to deal with the consequences...

I don't do customs. You guys have balls.

 

[Middus]

I don't do customs. You guys have balls.

I have recently had to stop myself..

 

[readalot]

I have recently had to stop myself..

Fuck that. Many chinese suppliers pulled their domestic reshippers for those that like that cheaper product.

Give Sell me expensive domestic gear from someone who knows what the f they are doing.

 

[newguy2]

LE attention tends to follow political or media attention.

You start seeing sensationalist stories about teens having heart attacks being blamed on PEDs, or a celebrity death attributed to it, it would be time to get concerned. In the past, steroid crackdowns followed sports doping scandals.

I get zero vibes the public is anywhere near as anti-steroid or roid rage paranoid as in the past. TRT has gone some way in changing the culture imo.

May be true, but when the feds get you, even a slap on the wrist stings pretty good. They don't play when it comes to sentencing.

 

[DespondentWojak]

Haven't kept to date with the thread, but just wanted to report that I got 2 separate packs from SSA; took about 3 weeks post order and everything was accounted for. I used Yoya as a rep.