Hey at least you have the brains to pick the right vendor.View attachment 342158
Needless to say, it stacks up quite nicely alongside the best.
I will keep trying. Appreciate the insight!
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Hey at least you have the brains to pick the right vendor.View attachment 342158
Needless to say, it stacks up quite nicely alongside the best.
My next tren cycle will be in a few weeks if bloodwork comes back stable again.Hey at least you have the brains to pick the right vendor.
I will keep trying. Appreciate the insight!
Arail frankly pisses me off. I can't say anything critical about him. Been through the whole thread. I am starting to believe he really does care.My next tren cycle will be in a few weeks if bloodwork comes back stable again.
I've been fortunate to have read the experiences of others. @Arail choosing to test their raws gave me the confidence to proceed with them.
Absolutely thrilled with this whole experience so far. Now I patiently await their test to come back in stock. I missed out on their TNE by ordering about three hours too early this most recent time. Hoping to add it onto my next order.
I'm not the brewer, so I can't say with any certainty, but mig840 should greatly reduce the need for BA/BB. That being said, MTren probably doesn't use much if any at all, whereas SD still might require some.Hi Arail,
Between SDROL and MTREN, could you share which uses a higher amount of BA+BB?
No need to share the %.
My apologies if Arail does use silicone stopper. I missed that. Keep those vials upright off the oil (my standard practice). Or refilter into new vial with Flurotec stopper.Silicone stopper
Was interested in Tracy's thoughts. I had thought they were common for lyo vials.
To Ghoul's point. See benzol and benzyl group entries above.
Benzyl Benzoate turns silicone to goo and causes chemicals to leech into the solution making it unsuitable.
PTFE coated bromo or chloro butyl rubber is the ultimate non-reactive stopper, especially for long term storage.
Was interested in Tracy's thoughts. I had thought they were common for lyo vials.Silicone is not good and it's useless anyway without a PTFE coating.
...I have used silicone stoppers for years and have never detected a problem with them deteriorating. That is not to say it’s not happening, but I have not Visually seen any deterioration.
Nice work. Thanks Arail.My apologies if Arail does use silicone stopper. I missed that. Keep those vials upright off the oil (my standard practice). Or refilter into new vial with Flurotec stopper.
Was interested in Tracy's thoughts. I had thought they were common for lyo vials.
To Ghoul's point. See benzol and benzyl group entries above.
Shows BB in the worst category of silicone compatibility here as well:
Chemical Compatibility Chart | Applications| Jehbco Silicones
Silicone rubber has excellent chemical compatibility with a wide range of materials, often providing and advantage over other materials with similar elastomeric properties. In particular, silicone displays outstanding chemical compatibility with water, aqueous and most chemically polar substances.jehbco.com.au
Benzyl Benzoate turns silicone to goo and causes chemicals to leech into the solution making it unsuitable.
PTFE coated bromo or chloro butyl rubber is the ultimate non-reactive stopper, especially for long term storage.
Was interested in Tracy's thoughts. I had thought they were common for lyo vials.Silicone is not good and it's useless anyway without a PTFE coating.
...I have used silicone stoppers for years and have never detected a problem with them deteriorating. That is not to say it’s not happening, but I have not Visually seen any deterioration.
1. I do sincerely appreciate that @Arail is so responsive to customer input.Nice work. Thanks Arail.
Take care.
1. I do sincerely appreciate that @Arail is so responsive to customer input.
2. What’s the functional difference between the butyl and silicone stoppers?
My apologies if Arail does use silicone stopper. I missed that. Keep those vials upright off the oil (my standard practice). Or refilter into new vial with Flurotec stopper.Silicone stopper
We're having trouble logging into the meso account at the moment. We sent a message via the contact section and are waiting for help. Wanted to let you know we aren't purposely ignoring everyone over there haha.

Thats my issue. I have a bottle top filtering setup but cant find any ptfe bottle top filters for less than 7 million british pounds per filter.smhHi @Arail
Can you confirm what bottle filters are you using.
Do any of them contain any amount of Polystyrene.
Polystyrene starts leeching when exposed to either MCT BA BB.
The vast majority of bottletop filters contain Polystyrene in the holding area.
Is Jano testing for polystyrene covered under your testing policy?
30 minutes at 50 C when exposed to BA/BB
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https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acssuschemeng.3c08154
e.g Bottlecap filter used by another US DOM vendor
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Thats my issue. I have a bottle top filtering setup but cant find any ptfe bottle top filters for less than 7 million british pounds per filter.smh
Testing raws has definitely paid off. We just received some results for some bunk raws.My next tren cycle will be in a few weeks if bloodwork comes back stable again.
I've been fortunate to have read the experiences of others. @Arail choosing to test their raws gave me the confidence to proceed with them.
Absolutely thrilled with this whole experience so far. Now I patiently await their test to come back in stock. I missed out on their TNE by ordering about three hours too early this most recent time. Hoping to add it onto my next order.
We'll keep doing our best! hahaArail frankly pisses me off. I can't say anything critical about him. Been through the whole thread. I am starting to believe he really does care.
J/k Arail. Thanks for raising the bar and keeping it there both here and at SST.
Can we get that color down just a bit more?![]()
