Brewing Test PP at 200mg/ml – Possible?

[cloudrift]

Anyone here ever pulled off testosterone phenylpropionate at 200mg/ml?
From what I’m seeing, raws right now are just test PP and propionate, no blends, no fancy esters.
Wondering if it’s even doable at that concentration without it crashing or being a PIP nightmare.
If you’ve done it, what carrier, BB/BA ratio did you go with? Did it actually hold, or did you end up dropping the mg/ml?
Just trying to see if I’m chasing something that won’t work.

 

[verylargeshoes]

Highest concentration recipe I've seen is 166 mg/mL, and that included EO. I'm less bothered by low concentration short ester test, as I'm going to be pinning it daily or EOD anyway, and I don't need grams of the stuff.

 

[Pez'sAnabolicJunta]

Anyone here ever pulled off testosterone phenylpropionate at 200mg/ml?
From what I’m seeing, raws right now are just test PP and propionate, no blends, no fancy esters.
Wondering if it’s even doable at that concentration without it crashing or being a PIP nightmare.
If you’ve done it, what carrier, BB/BA ratio did you go with? Did it actually hold, or did you end up dropping the mg/ml?
Just trying to see if I’m chasing something that won’t work.

Just so it at 150mg.ml in MCT or try GSO. 1-2% BA and 20% BA or less with Ethyl Lactate or Guiacol. I am an EL guy. Creaote, - Guiacol seems thru the skin and you smell like a a smoky piece of incense.

 

[ekim]

Does testosterone phenylpropionate at 150mg/ml hold 100% without issue with 2% BA and 20% BB?

I've been doing 100mg/ml, but want to go to whatever the realistic max is with 2/20 (BA/BB).

 

[Photon]

Yes 200mg/ml is def possible.

https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1944/15/20/7245

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I'd reckon MCT 2/25% would be good, to cater for winter lower temperatures and raw purity.

 

[Duke309]

Yes 200mg/ml is def possible.

https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1944/15/20/7245

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I'd reckon MCT 2/25% would be good, to cater for winter lower temperatures and raw purity.

Just because its soluble doesn't mean it doesn't hurt like hell. Test Iso for example works at 400mg/ml at MCT and it is very painful. I'm cutting my 350mg/ml in half with additional oil and it still sucks at higher shot volumes.

 

[Photon]

Just because its soluble doesn't mean it doesn't hurt like hell. Test Iso for example works at 400mg/ml at MCT and it is very painful. I'm cutting my 350mg/ml in half with additional oil and it still sucks at higher shot volumes.

Yes you need to mix, I find anything mixed with BU to be pip free (except dhb). Using a thicker oil like castor also reduces pip because it gets released slower.

 

[narta]

I made a custom blend of 150mg TPP/150mg NPP. Has a sting nothing major or crippling though. 150mg NPP by itself is fine. If I went single TPP I would stay at 150mg max

 

[Pez'sAnabolicJunta]

Does testosterone phenylpropionate at 150mg/ml hold 100% without issue with 2% BA and 20% BB?

I've been doing 100mg/ml, but want to go to whatever the realistic max is with 2/20 (BA/BB).

Test phenylprop will (or even 1/2 prop & 1/2 phenylprop) will easily hold @150mg with 1-2% BA and 20% BB on easy street. IMO no need to go higher. NPP easily holds with the same percentages.at 150mg/ml so 75mg mix of NPP and TPP would be driving Miss Daisy,

 

[Pez'sAnabolicJunta]

Yes you need to mix, I find anything mixed with BU to be pip free (except dhb). Using a thicker oil like castor also reduces pip because it gets released slower.

Back in the 90s a guy got TP in GSO @333mg/ml. He used Ethyl Lactate (Animal's 'supersolvent') and phenysalicilate (don't go there, please). He had crippling PIP 2 days later due to the crystals coming out of the depot.

 

[niqTM]

Test phenylprop will (or even 1/2 prop & 1/2 phenylprop) will easily hold @150mg with 1-2% BA and 20% BB on easy street. IMO no need to go higher. NPP easily holds with the same percentages.at 150mg/ml so 75mg mix of NPP and TPP would be driving Miss Daisy,

I got mine to hold at 200mg (100mg prop/100mg phenylprop) at 20%bb. A lot of pip. Had to cut it down to 50mg to get rid of the annoying pip.

 

[sionnach]

He had crippling PIP 2 days later due to the crystals coming out of the depot.

This is always my fear going with conc so high it crashes. Sure you could just warm it up, but the body's only 37°C. God forbid you accidentally hit a vein and get an embolism.

 

[Pez'sAnabolicJunta]

Rare, but a devastating possibility. A bloodborn pathogen in the circulation is also a devastating possibility. A mix of 1 part test prop and 1 part test phenylrpop can easily be compounded and not cause any pain. There is no need for 'super solvents' unless rescuing a batch of gear. Just looking at AI a person can see that putting short(er) esters into viscous oils such as tea tree oil or castor seed oil can prolong the duration by controlling the release. The viscous 2 oils I mentioned slow down the esterase enzyme quite a bit. Test Undecanoate gets 10 more days using castor vs tea tree oil.