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[Walter Hype]

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Post in thread 'TheScholarOfBrew - Trenbolone Acetate 100mg/ml 3rd party'

Jul 17, 2025

@janoshik

Can you please chime in with your expertise? Is this stuff even real? Surely you would have some kind of insight? We would all appreciate some kind of opinion from you to shut this purifying none sense to bed.

If it was this magical solution for all our problems, don't you think some other big lab would know better? For all these years, they're suddenly not doing it?

Makes me roll my eyes

Recrystallization is a technique we regularly employ to purify our standards and it's not as simple as it appears upon the first look, but it's definitely doable. And...

• janoshik

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Now on to testing.
Get someone trustworthy to
(1) Buy 2 vials of Tren from a trustable dom supplier, same batch. (which tren?)
(2) Apply heat for a few hours hours to one vial (how high?)
(3) Send both for HPLC+GCMS -- the GCMS here is mainly qualitative, remember this.
That will allow us to see what happens.

I have a pretty amber darkish looking Tren E im staring at right now from GA. It is in a 100ml vial. Transferring it to a 10ml and its light amber.

(3) As for the raws testing, I'd say we get some feedback from Jano first. My understanding that acetone will not turn up on GCMS due to high volatility, same as b.a. A different test might be needed.

60C for 30 minutes is sufficient for darkening the tren

 

[Photon]

It won't show up because it evaporates so readily, especially under vacuum.

Acetone doesn't just stay somewhere, it has to go somewhere. It's boiling point is quite low. And if you pull it under vacuum, like I've done, it won't be there at all. Other solvents are quite different, but acetone specifically is extremely easy to remove. 99.97% pure acetone is pure enough for this purpose.

It boils at 56c.
Melting point of Test D is 47c. I don't see my Test D raws coming as liquid.

 

[readalot]

It won't show up because it evaporates so readily, especially under vacuum.

Acetone doesn't just stay somewhere, it has to go somewhere. It's boiling point is quite low. And if you pull it under vacuum, like I've done, it won't be there at all. Other solvents are quite different, but acetone specifically is extremely easy to remove. 99.97% pure acetone is pure enough for this purpose.

People aren't going to buy a vapor pressure, relative volatility argument without data (even though you are correct). We will have to prove no residual solvent remaining.

 

[Walter Hype]

It boils at 56c.
Melting point of Test D is 47c. I don't see my Test D raws coming as liquid.

When you put it under vacuum to remove the acetone. Its boiling point is half that or less.

 

[Photon]

Honestly makes me wonder if the solution is just to use Tren Hex which has the highest melting point lol

 

[Walter Hype]

People aren't going to buy a vapor pressure, relative volatility argument without data (even though you are correct). We will have to prove no residual solvent remaining.

True, I trust people who's done this before us in different fields and I trust the data that's been done for decades on the subject. Maybe I'm a bit too trusting, but it's worked out for me so far.

 

[Photon]

When you put it under vacuum to remove the acetone. Its boiling point is half that or less.

The issue is that..nothing you said can be verified by any of us here.
The only way, is to test the final product by a 3rd party.

 

[dinfar1337]

People aren't going to buy a vapor pressure, relative volatility argument without data (even though you are correct). We will have to prove no residual solvent remaining.

yes, i think we all are thinking way too inward. and need to attack this from a angle of both a oxidized tren effects setting but also how bad the effects play in ugl application settings

 

[Walter Hype]

Honestly makes me wonder if the solution is just to use Tren Hex which has the highest melting point lol

It is technically the original form.

 

[Walter Hype]

The issue is that..nothing you said can be verified by any of us here.
The only way, is to test the final product by a 3rd party.

Which I have no problem with. I'm not arguing against it. I'm just saying acetone doesn't linger. It just can't. The physics don't allow it.

If there's a test for that, let's do it.

 

[dinfar1337]

It is technically the original form.

you are right, the pharma ones for humans was tren hex and the pharma for veterinary use was tren ace.

 

[readalot]

If that's made in the MCT oil, then it's literally a matter that their raws were not purified like mine was.

I am not following that claim. You would also need to know the time and temperature it was brewed at.

Mine was only made in MCT oil or the ones that I have currently being shared around they all have beautiful color

Please share procedure. Excipients, brew temp, integral temperature history? Do you use an antioxidant for long term storage?

 

[Walter Hype]

yes, i think we all are thinking way too inward. and need to attack this from a angle of both a oxidized tren effects setting but also how bad the effects play in ugl application settings

Yeah, like sitting in a room with your underwear in a bathtub with all the lights on a hot plate stirrer rushing to get out your brew because your customers need it. LOL

 

[Walter Hype]

I am not following that claim. You would also need to know the time and temperature it was brewed at.


Please share procedure. Excipients, brew temp, integral temperature history? Do you use an antioxidant for long term storage?

No, mine does not contain antioxidants, though I have considered that. But I was wondering if that was safe to do in the first place, and if it ever showed up in testing, people might be wondering why I'm adding that in. But I like that you're asking that because I've also considered putting that in oil

Vitamin in E being one.

 

[Walter Hype]

I am not following that claim. You would also need to know the time and temperature it was brewed at.


Please share procedure. Excipients, brew temp, integral temperature history? Do you use an antioxidant for long term storage?

Oh yeah, I'm just saying He clearly overcooked it. I mean look how dark that is. That's ace, right? Yeah, so if it's MCT oil then literally it's either two things raw purity or he overcooked it. Something is oxidized. In the brew or before. There's literally nothing else in between that would answer for that.

 

[readalot]

True, I trust people who's done this before us in different fields and I trust the data that's been done for decades on the subject. Maybe I'm a bit too trusting, but it's worked out for me so far.

I am not arguing. I understand this quite well. I am just stating the obvious this will have to be verified 3rd party for folks to buy into it.

What you said is correct. What I or you think doesnt matter. We have no credentials and people should push for verification.

 

[Walter Hype]

I am not arguing. I understand this quite well. I am just stating the obvious this will have to be verified 3rd party for folks to buy into it.

What you said is correct. What I or you think doesnt matter. We have no credentials and people should push for verification.

Yeah, for sure. Let's get a testing done. What tests allow us to see acetone in RAWs or oils? @janoshik hey man, I'm back. Do you mind sparing some of your time when you're free?

 

[readalot]

Oh yeah, I'm just saying He clearly overcooked it. I mean look how dark that is. That's ace, right? Yeah, so if it's MCT oil then literally it's either two things raw purity or he overcooked it. Something is oxidized. In the brew or before. There's literally nothing else in between that would answer for that.

Thank you for clarifying. This fine product was gently and lovingly caressed at 80 deg C. Lol.

Yes TrA.

 

[dinfar1337]

Thank you for clarifying. This fine product was gently and lovingly caressed at 80 deg C. Lol.

Yes TrA.

he took a nap while brewing it

 

[Walter Hype]

he took a nap while brewing it

Yeah, I've had some Raw's stuck in a beaker mixing for almost an hour, but I only used that do that on really stable compounds. I would never do that with tren. You got to baby tren. Shes sensitive....