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I know this isn't "ethical" by normative medical standards in the west, but the truth is that the real members here helping others are the ones ordering and reporting what their experience was. Honestly, I know that fucking sucks. You think I find it ideal that I'm injecting Chinese based generic products in my body? You think I don't wish Primal would roll out the red carpet for all of us and show us the in and outs of his lab? That's a pipedream! It has NEVER happened.

Consider the member in this thread who got an abscess. That appeared to be caused by poor technique both failing to swab his vial top and shallowly injecting a large amount of high concentration oil through a high gauge needle into a muscle w some fat on it. It wasn't caused by "shit raws." Advice in those areas are where the real value in member knowledge lies.

Here's some harm reduction for lurking members here that are feeling dizzy: this source is a godsend for oils right now if you live in the US.
We can have both. Practical tips as you mention above AND push the standards on UG gear. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

Look at the turn around since the beginning of the thread. At the beginning Primal was bragging about his pharma COA. Now he mentions it looks like a 6th grader did it.

If he tests his raws and finally understands they aren't 99.94% purity, that's awesome.

If he pushes the standard on UG "tren" here domestically. Awesome.

It's sources like this that take feedback who end up make incremental improvements to the status quo. That is good IMO.

Will we get "source to customer" GCMS data pairing and molecular fingerprinting / authentication tracing? Who knows?

In your mind, are we done with improving testing/analytical standards? Source shows up with HPLC testing and we are good?
 
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We don’t shop from generic bulk marketplaces. All of our raws come directly from vetted manufacturers that provide full COAs (Certificates of Analysis) per batch, not just generic ones. We reject anything that doesn’t meet spec, even if it’s expensive to do so.

The COAs will be sent when your input stops reading like a cry for validation. Until then, maybe give your keyboard the break we all need.

You’re right, “GC” alone isn’t a complete analytical method. This particular COA uses Gas Chromatography by area %, which is a common practice for raw material assay. It’s not mass-spec based or HPLC-weighted, just standard GC area normalization, which is what most major raw suppliers rely on for initial potency confirmation.

It looks like a COA a 6th grader whipped up. But figured I’d still share it and keep the convo going. Better than nothing IMO.

Progression. Props to @Primal_Pharma for getting real.

How do folks think this happens? It is alot of fucking work.
 
Lol. I am only one person. Can I get some help?

I don't have a whole harm reduction staff working for me overseas at a call center.

I’ve already said on this thread it would be nice for other long standing members to chime in and thanked you for doing so much of the heavy lifting. I agree if Primal lives up to his word, you helped pushed him in a better direction.

But honestly I don’t know you or your motivation. and they way you go at him, and your timing, makes it seem personal. Again, I don’t really care about motives as long as it benefits the community.

Truthfully my opinion shouldn’t mean shit to anyone. I’m just some random dude on the internet., so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
 
Progression. Props to @Primal_Pharma for getting real.

How do folks think this happens? It is alot of fucking work.
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I’ve already said on this thread it would be nice for other long standing members to chime in and thanked you for doing so much of the heavy lifting. I agree if Primal lives up to his word, you helped pushed him in a better direction.

But honestly I don’t know you or your motivation. and they way you go at him, and your timing, makes it seem personal. Again, I don’t really care about motives as long as it benefits the community.

Truthfully my opinion shouldn’t mean shit to anyone. I’m just some random dude on the internet., so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

He’s just doing God’s work. Burying the promo posts so the rest of you can’t get any… meanwhile he’s in the corner building a personal mountain of Anadrol and Clen like a doomsday prepper. But hey, we’ll allow it.
 
But honestly I don’t know you or your motivation. and they way you go at him, and your timing, makes it seem personal. Again, I don’t really care about motives as long as it benefits the community.
Good point; I get it. No one in their right mind would spend this amount of time doing this stuff with absolutely no financial interest or compensation.

Fuck that Millard; he got me with his dream for a better AAS world. Bastard.
 
He’s just doing God’s work. Burying the promo posts so the rest of you can’t get any… meanwhile he’s in the corner building a personal mountain of Anadrol and Clen like a doomsday prepper. But hey, we’ll allow it.
You get those raws tested, tren fixed, and those hoodies out, and I will order. Cant run that ass tren i got from another source.
 
Good point; I get it. No one in their right mind would spend this amount of time doing this stuff with absolutely no financial interest or compensation.

I don’t get accused of being sane too often, so I get it. I also think this does truly matter. Don’t take offense to anything I say because there is no vitriol on my end. I just try to speak objectively and honestly
 
I looked at some other vendor threads today and noticed a few are having issues. But I didn’t see them getting hammered endlessly either.

Some of the others vendors are a hopeless cause.
Try asking the Chinese sources about their products.
Some of them don't even know the difference between mg vs mcg for Clen.
Ask them about their oils and they'll give a pharmaceutical recipe from mr gpt.
 
Some of the others vendors are a hopeless cause.

That makes sense and I appreciate the insight. And to clarify my end, I wasn’t trying to insinuate some vendors were getting a “pass”. I was only pointing out that as a “new guy” here, it’s impossible to determine one’s motives. When you hear one guy consistently highlighting an issue and crickets, to some degree, from the rest of the community, it makes it seem personal.

I’m sure as I spend more time here I’ll develope a better understanding. I just hope my perspective helps give light to what the uninitiated are seeing.
 
I’ve already said on this thread it would be nice for other long standing members to chime in and thanked you for doing so much of the heavy lifting. I agree if Primal lives up to his word, you helped pushed him in a better direction.

But honestly I don’t know you or your motivation. and they way you go at him, and your timing, makes it seem personal. Again, I don’t really care about motives as long as it benefits the community.

Truthfully my opinion shouldn’t mean shit to anyone. I’m just some random dude on the internet., so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Lots of people have been supportive of readalot
 
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