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[verylargeshoes]

Sources are lucky they get to post here and make piles of money.

If a drug peddler is going to piss their pants and cry cuz a couple autists asked about quality control they should quit and sell timeshares.

I guess some people don’t realize that the product being sold on Meso Rx is *us*, and there is a price to be paid.

 

[Bandern]

I guess some people don’t realize that the product being sold on Meso Rx is *us*, and there is a price to be paid.

I think people vastly underestimate how much money changes hands through this website. The relationship between user and seller is mutually beneficial.

Sources do a noble thing by selling products that would be legal in a morally just world. But the whole “be nice to sources, don’t ask any questions, and maybe let them sleep with your wife” schtick is self loathing bruised knees behavior

 

[readalot]

I think people vastly underestimate how much money changes hands through this website. The relationship between user and seller is mutually beneficial.

Sources do a noble thing by selling products that would be legal in a morally just world. But the whole “be nice to sources, don’t ask any questions, and maybe let them sleep with your wife” schtick is self loathing bruised knees behavior

Hey @narta did tell me I was a literal and figurative tool months ago. At the time I didn't fully appreciate he was genuinely trying to help me.

The "house" and sources win here either way ($$$$). It is great that this website and SST allow for largely unmoderated access to sources without censorship. Where else do sources get vetted?

The comments from @verylargeshoes does strike a chord. Some of us are doing this with absolutely no financial interest at all. Then to get the "be nice to sources" bit is rather sickening. Completely agree. That's different than being told "you are wasting your time".

 

[readalot]

I guess some people don’t realize that the product being sold on Meso Rx is *us*, and there is a price to be paid.

Insightful comment if I read it right. Guess some of us should smarten up and find a way to derive an income stream on this like everyone else.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

I guess some people don’t realize that the product being sold on Meso Rx is *us*, and there is a price to be paid.

Facts. It really is a privilege being here.

Not bad mouthing anyone. But when we saw other sources getting defensive or emotional over some basic questions, we knew we had to jump in and do it differently.

 

[readalot]

We can't be sure that crap raws aren't used for brewing, simply based off testing of raws. Whether those raws are even used for brewing is a question itself.

A better test (i would think) is to GCMS the oil. We can't be sure if crap raws are used, but in the event they were used, at least we know that there is nothing toxic (that is volatile) from those impurities, in the oil. If the GCMS shows the use of high amounts of solvents, then I'd be suspicious of the raw purity as well.

The closest we can get, to tieing the raws to the oils, is to GCMS both of them. If you see weird stuff in the oils but not the raws, then clearly something must have happened along the way, or a different set of raws are used. Practically speaking, this will not happen as no vendor will pay for this just to hold themself accountable.

Hey, if we can pull this off then fantastic. As you know I am big fan of the potential with GCMS.

To clarify, rather than try to go nuclear as I did early on (and failed), lately I have been trying to move incrementally like with the raws testing. I understand it is impossible job. Some will say it isn't enough, some will say it is too much.

Your plan (a molecular fingerprint analysis if you will) is pretty cool. Allows the customer to compare raw material to their oil. Thanks for your very helpful suggestions.

 

[readalot]

But when we saw other sources getting defensive or emotional over some basic questions, we knew we had to jump in and do it differently.

Then you have an opportunity to do things differently than other sources since you want to claim you do it differently.

 

[Tdeck81]

Insightful comment if I read it right. Guess some of us should smarten up and find a way to derive an income stream on this like everyone else.

I completely understand the sentiment, but when newbies, like myself, arrive and feel like they are being “hustled” from every angle this site will wither away.

I also realize deriving an income is not synonymous with being dishonest. But when everyone has a financial motive there will be zero trust or accountability.

Just my opinion but then again what do I know.

 

[readalot]

I completely understand the sentiment, but when newbies, like myself, arrive and feel like they are being “hustled” from every angle this site will wither away.

I also realize deriving an income is not synonymous with being dishonest. But when everyone has a financial motive there will be zero trust or accountability.

Just my opinion but then again what do I know.

My apology. I was being sarcastic. That is absolutely the right question a newbie should ask..."who is making money here?" "What is their angle?

It is clear I am insane, but I dont and wont ever make a dime off any of this. Conclude from that what you will.

@Photon

I missed an opportunity trying to pitch the below vs your abbreviated and surgical plan. You can read how it went over last time. Hopefully momentum can build for the GCMS of raws and oils.

@Primal_Pharma does say he want to do things differently.

R

Thread 'Source QC and C of A (do you have one?)'

Oct 19, 2023

Some thoughts/suggestions for discussion after looking around here.

Realistic, overkill, get what you pay for, don't care?

Would like to hear members' thoughts, counterpoints, etc. especially on cost vs quality. The path to quality is known. Will people pay or too much for UGL customers?

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Every Source should provide with each shipment ...

1. 3rd party C of A on finished product batch specific to that shipment
- endotoxin screen
- metals with ICP
- purity(ies) / concentration(s) using hplc plus ms (or gcms)

2. C of A for bulk api for each batch (hplc plus ms or gcms)...

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[Tdeck81]

My apology. I was being sarcastic

No apologies needed, I was sure this was the case. Just wanted to reiterate why it’s important to do what you do. I can imagine it gets discouraging catching flak from all angles.

 

[BigDadd7]

Hey, if we can pull this off then fantastic. As you know I am big fan of the potential with GCMS.

To clarify, rather than try to go nuclear as I did early on (and failed), lately I have been trying to move incrementally like with the raws testing. I understand it is impossible job. Some will say it isn't enough, some will say it is too much.

Your plan (a molecular fingerprint analysis if you will) is pretty cool. Allows the customer to compare raw material to their oil. Thanks for your very helpful suggestions.

I don't think you failed early on. You put pressure on that forced Primal to rise to the challenge. It was like those early Stallone vs Schwarzenegger movies where they kept trying to out do each other. In the end, we all won and now they're friends.

 

[readalot]

I don't think you failed early on. You put pressure on that forced Primal to rise to the challenge. It was like those early Stallone vs Schwarzenegger movies where they kept trying to out do each other. In the end, we all won and now they're friends.

I am referring to thread I posted above and the "enhanced testing" phase last year.

Primal is moving in the right direction from an attitude perspective. Time will tell if he tests his raws. Some sources do.

If he wants to truly do things differently there is the GCMS angle, but how much demand is there for this with the rank and file? They just want their API. Dont give a shit about any other stuff along for the ride.

 

[readalot]

Case in point wrt impurities...

UG "tren" is an obvious one.

All that color tells you something and it ain't a good message.

R

Post in thread 'Tren . . . the nectar of the gods'

Aug 5, 2025

So bumping this. There may be a better thread. If there is let me know.

Anyone gone down the rabbit hole of tren color and the oxidation chemistry upon heating tren raws in oil with O2 headspace? @Type-IIx?

The chemistry is pretty straight forward with conjugated C-C double bonds (I will spare the numbering) reacting to form quinones which are known chromophores.

The rub is these benzoquinone tren derivatives are decently studied in cancer research for their ability to increase ROS and speed up cell death. So my hypothesis is that when you run darkly colored tren you are...

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[verylargeshoes]

I completely understand the sentiment, but when newbies, like myself, arrive and feel like they are being “hustled” from every angle this site will wither away.

Don't worry! You can learn how to avoid the hustles by reading my eBook "Get Yourself Some Good 2 Go Gear On Meso", and you can get it on sale in my 3 book bundle which also includes "Filtering Your Floaters For Fun and Fprofit!" and my coffee table folio "Tasteful Tits", lovingly...slowly...compiled from the finest source intro posts.

 

[verylargeshoes]

Insightful comment if I read it right. Guess some of us should smarten up and find a way to derive an income stream on this like everyone else.

Unfortunately, there's no monetization angle for Don Quixote. All the money's in windmills and windmill accessories.

 

[readalot]

Unfortunately, there's no monetization angle for Don Quixote. All the money's in windmills and windmill accessories.

Where have I heard this before? Lol!

Y'all be good now, ya hear.

 

[verylargeshoes]

Where have I heard this before? Lol!

Y'all be good now.

 

[sionnach]

It was like those early Stallone vs Schwarzenegger movies

Were they ever in anything together besides Expendables 3?

 

[Tdeck81]

learn how to avoid the hustles by reading my eBook "Get Yourself Some Good 2 Go Gear On Meso"

Idk..I heard doing research behind the Planet Fitness Dumpster builds character

 

[BigDadd7]

Were they ever in anything together besides Expendables 3?

Only that one ghey porn