I was kidding I’m dumb and I will continue to do absolutely retarted things but that would be absolutely brain dead to do . appreciate your responses
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Urgent injection problem.
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branabolic
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Hi, could you help me to find steroids in TLV/Israel? Thanks.
IS IT SO HARD TO READ? I swear you people do this on purpose.. literally how hard is it to read the forums rules. On top of this there is something get ready to hear it.. it’s called a SEARCH BAR!
Dude like it’s like whatever when it happens like once or twice, maybe some people just don’t read, but man it’s amazing how many people just simply can’t read the rules to a forum. Like I must be missing something.
RockyP
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Would have to chime in again and suggest getting an ultrasound of the area / mass at an urgent care - the only problem there is that urgent cares don't have a specialist to read the study (radiologist), and so it may take time to have your results. My sense is they would probably just take a look at the thing and give you a 10 day course of Antibiotics just in case. I would strongly suggest going to urgent care. Even if it's sterile / not an abscess, you really don't want to fuck with it if it is. If it were to rupture you could have a hell of a problem on your hands. I think i mentioned it in my last post, but just because you don't have a fever does not mean you are in the clear. You could have a purulent abscess that is stable / walled off (that's what an abscess is), but it would need to be drained by a surgeon / interventional radiologist. You could have it drained by an NP at an urgent care i suppose, just make sure you have your affairs in order.
BeardedGuy
Member
So, ok, side question: what would we tell the Urgent Care in such a situation? The truth for accurate treatment , safety first, I guess. Is there any potential for trouble?
Love this, I will do this, I’m actually I’m going tmrw to urgent care I have already told my family about “my hernia burst” and how I need to leave.
RockyP
Member
Trouble? Medical people don't give a shit what you did. They treat all sorts of people with horrible addictions. If you're worried about something going in your medical record, just say you were injecting an oil-based peptide. They won't know that's not a thing (and they prob wont know oil vs Bac Water), so go with peptide, final answer. Or even better, carnitine.
Ik this is a dumb question but how can I prevent this in the future I rlly would like to continue subq injections ik they aren’t ideal. I’m very sterile I use swabs and everything, is it just simply not deep enough?
RockyP
Member
It's not a matter of depth. It's a matter of the substance (could be the oil, the solvents) not agreeing with your tissue. The ONLY thing you might try (not saying you should) is to keep the volumes VERY low, like 0.1 - 0.2 ml max per shot. Otherwise, just bag it. It's great motivation to stay lean enough to where you can use a 1 inch pin all over and get deep into the muscle to avoid these issues. Personally, I'm sitting with a lump in my lower abdomen from a 0.75 cc shot of glutathione from a few days ago - was fine at 0.5 cc but 0.75 was too much. But it's water based. Oils are really meant for IM. Some people can get away with SubQ but i'd really keep the volumes low and stay with the same brand / oil (MCT, GSO, etc.).
Thank you
adrenalytic
Member
Kinda late to the party but if its any consolation, I get these lumps when I go subQ as well. I used to do my test subQ daily (that became untenable when I upped my dose) and would get lumps that would last a few days. I've gotten them from NAD+ injections too.
Most recently, I was getting real bad primo pip in my IM injections so I decided to shoot some in my love handles as all my injection sites were sore. Bad idea and a mistake I won't be making again. The good news is the swelling and pain went away after 3 days without intervention. Bad news is the lumps are still lingering.
Really it seems to be the volume rather than the compound that my body doesn't like. NAD+ gets shot at 2 mLs and my primo/test mixture was over a mL of oil on each love handle. The subcutaneous space doesn't like that much foreign fluid and reads it as an invasion so you get a histamine response.
Bottom line, you're probably fine OP but that shouldn't stop you from getting checked out.
Most recently, I was getting real bad primo pip in my IM injections so I decided to shoot some in my love handles as all my injection sites were sore. Bad idea and a mistake I won't be making again. The good news is the swelling and pain went away after 3 days without intervention. Bad news is the lumps are still lingering.
Really it seems to be the volume rather than the compound that my body doesn't like. NAD+ gets shot at 2 mLs and my primo/test mixture was over a mL of oil on each love handle. The subcutaneous space doesn't like that much foreign fluid and reads it as an invasion so you get a histamine response.
Bottom line, you're probably fine OP but that shouldn't stop you from getting checked out.
Thank you for the assurance, I’m still going tmrw just to make absolute sure. I appreciate your response and everyone else’s yall helped a lot
There are some sawbones here. Getting to urgent care or an emergency department is the right move at this point. I haven't read everything but I've read the trajectory of your comments. Your worry right now is that you're dealing with the early stages of cellulitis or the development of an abscess. If you haven't, begin tracking the margin of redness with a marker. And you absolutely have to tell the doctor it's from injection.
About the keflex, it's a lucky break because that's very likely what you would have gotten anyway. I don't know how many you have or what dosage, but the standard starting dose is 500 mg every 12 hours. This being meso, though, you might need to take 500 mg every 6-8 hours if you weigh more than 200-220 lbs. That is also the adjustment made if you experience systemic symtpoms -- fever, chills, malaise -- or if the infection spreads. If you have an immune condition or diabetes, opt for six hours if you have the meds for it. Again, track the margin.
VERY VERY IMPORTANTLY, you need to space your antibiotics out evenly until you get to the doctor. If you taking the more frequent dose means you'll have to go 12 hours without a 500 mg dose, do not increase frequency. Otherwise, you can kick off an even worse infection. This is the a real danger for you right now. If you have the 250 mg capsules, and you only have a few, this is especially crucial.
MRSA - keflex should abate the symptoms within 48-72 hours of initiation. If that doesn't happen, go to an emergency department because you need to treat against the possibility of MRSA. You may need IV antibiotics and you may need to be admitted. A history of MRSA, skin infections, or a spider bite appearance, or purulent discharge will warrant get you an rx for bactrim, doxycycline, or clindamycin. Make sure to mention you're an athlete, because if it's a toss up on whether or not to treat for MRSA absent a culture, athletes are at a higher risk.
Final point: if the keflex starts working, you still need to go to a clinic. You have to complete a full course of antibiotics. Taking some keflex and stopping before eliminating the infection to a level the immune system can handle is potentially more dangerous than not taking any at all. This is AT LEAST 5 days if you don't have a history of infections and the symptoms fade rapidly. If it's slow going, you need to take them for 7-10 days. At the moment, you're killing only the easiest to kill bacteria. If you stop the drugs too early, the gnarly ones are left.
About the keflex, it's a lucky break because that's very likely what you would have gotten anyway. I don't know how many you have or what dosage, but the standard starting dose is 500 mg every 12 hours. This being meso, though, you might need to take 500 mg every 6-8 hours if you weigh more than 200-220 lbs. That is also the adjustment made if you experience systemic symtpoms -- fever, chills, malaise -- or if the infection spreads. If you have an immune condition or diabetes, opt for six hours if you have the meds for it. Again, track the margin.
VERY VERY IMPORTANTLY, you need to space your antibiotics out evenly until you get to the doctor. If you taking the more frequent dose means you'll have to go 12 hours without a 500 mg dose, do not increase frequency. Otherwise, you can kick off an even worse infection. This is the a real danger for you right now. If you have the 250 mg capsules, and you only have a few, this is especially crucial.
MRSA - keflex should abate the symptoms within 48-72 hours of initiation. If that doesn't happen, go to an emergency department because you need to treat against the possibility of MRSA. You may need IV antibiotics and you may need to be admitted. A history of MRSA, skin infections, or a spider bite appearance, or purulent discharge will warrant get you an rx for bactrim, doxycycline, or clindamycin. Make sure to mention you're an athlete, because if it's a toss up on whether or not to treat for MRSA absent a culture, athletes are at a higher risk.
Final point: if the keflex starts working, you still need to go to a clinic. You have to complete a full course of antibiotics. Taking some keflex and stopping before eliminating the infection to a level the immune system can handle is potentially more dangerous than not taking any at all. This is AT LEAST 5 days if you don't have a history of infections and the symptoms fade rapidly. If it's slow going, you need to take them for 7-10 days. At the moment, you're killing only the easiest to kill bacteria. If you stop the drugs too early, the gnarly ones are left.
I’m going tomorrow to get the antibiotics and to get it checked, I appreciate you writing this. Thank you
I had the same thing when I tried to pin carnitine subQ. hard lump for 3 days. should be fine, either lower the injection volume if you wanna subQ or go back to IM
which brand are these? are they thin-walled?
Oldhand
Member
So what ended up happening?
