My journey from permabulk to get jacked

Today I had a pull session, the first upper body workout since Monday and my injury. It went well, I just don’t see how I’ll return to push sessions. I ditched winny and currently on 250 test, 200 mast, 200 tren. I have another 2-3 shots of Reta to do to finish the vial and then I’m stopping it.

Bodyweight is 100,5kg or 222lb I think.

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How's your shoulder feeling today?

I know @Ateam2023 recommends BPC/TB at 5mg at day, not sure if you're using that or not at current?
 
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How's your shoulder feeling today?

I know @Ateam2023 recommends BPC/TB at 5mg at day, not sure if you're using that or not at current?

It’s way better than Monday but still hurts in particular movements a lot. Thankfully I managed to do a decent pull workout.

I’m already taking bpc and tb for the last 5 weeks or so, 2mg per day each. Thing is I’m running out in a few days and until I order and receive it’s gonna take a while.
 
It’s way better than Monday but still hurts in particular movements a lot. Thankfully I managed to do a decent pull workout.

I’m already taking bpc and tb for the last 5 weeks or so, 2mg per day each. Thing is I’m running out in a few days and until I order and receive it’s gonna take a while.
may be worth considering a bump up to the ATeam dose and see if it might provide further aid, and taking a couple days off it may also be beneficial when restarting it. It is very unlikely to fix it completely but maybe get you to a better compromised state.
 
may be worth considering a bump up to the ATeam dose and see if it might provide further aid, and taking a couple days off it may also be beneficial when restarting it. It is very unlikely to fix it completely but maybe get you to a better compromised state.
yes , i did notice the higher i went with doses , the more relief i get, im currently "cruising" on 2 mg bpc157/tb4 daily sticking it straight in where it hurts, injections in bicep tendon in armpit, and also at top front delt, intramuscular, or intra tendon(ouch) , gettingtired of "Aching" all the time lol , getting older , i wish i had taken better care of myself,,
 
How's the shoulder doing?

Feeling much better, it's not so inflamed but still hurts a lot in certain positions. For reference, i can't bring my arm in a overhead shoulder press position, at all! In front of my eyes i can bring it like 70% but when i try to open it and bring it to the side the pain is excruciating.

Today i'm going for a pull session and tomorrow i'm gonna try not exactly push, but to train chest and delts. Hope i'll make it haha. Thanks for asking man!
 
Oh, this was funny lol. Has anyone done this? I saw somewhere a dude asking for estimation and some well informed guys point out their opinion, someone did this with GPT and it came out exactly as the guys said, that's why i thought about trying it..but in my case it seems it's far off. I don't know if i'm yet close to 10%. Any opinions?

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Feeling much better, it's not so inflamed but still hurts a lot in certain positions. For reference, i can't bring my arm in a overhead shoulder press position, at all! In front of my eyes i can bring it like 70% but when i try to open it and bring it to the side the pain is excruciating.

Today i'm going for a pull session and tomorrow i'm gonna try not exactly push, but to train chest and delts. Hope i'll make it haha. Thanks for asking man!
Fantastic man! Of course, hate to see people struggle in their journey
 
Awesome story man ! It’s really impressive what you’ve accomplished. I can relate with a similar story. I have some loose skin that eats me alive sometimes but it reminds me on where I never wanna go back to … but hearing your story gave me a little inspiration. Keep up the good shit mane !
 
Awesome story man ! It’s really impressive what you’ve accomplished. I can relate with a similar story. I have some loose skin that eats me alive sometimes but it reminds me on where I never wanna go back to … but hearing your story gave me a little inspiration. Keep up the good shit mane !
Thanks a lot brother, appreciate the the good words! Keep pushing to make a physique where any loose skin would be the last place the eye catches. It’s the only way besides surgery. If I was 20 yo perhaps I’d thought about it, now I have to worry about other things first besides some loose skin. Just fuk it and let it be there to remind you where you were once and where you are today.

Good luck with your goals man.
 
i bet its hard to not knick a vein doing quad injections, lol very nice vascularity,

Lmao yeah that’s why I haven’t done a single pin in my quads so far! I guess other spots have many veins too but when you see em it’s it’s not so pleasant to look from above with the needle cap off lol. Thanks man!
 
Oh, this was funny lol. Has anyone done this? I saw somewhere a dude asking for estimation and some well informed guys point out their opinion, someone did this with GPT and it came out exactly as the guys said, that's why i thought about trying it..but in my case it seems it's far off. I don't know if i'm yet close to 10%. Any opinions?

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For physique assessment on GPT, you will have better results by being more specific with the prompt, providing it with a reference point first (I'll expand on this below), and then having something in the background thats in a constant position so it can scale you appropriately - for example, always having the camera at the same position across the images, or at least at the same relative height on the image, even if it's moved to the other side of the photo.

Model also matters, because some are a lot better at visual interpretation. 4o is usually best for image interpretation/analysis. But 4.1 would follow as second best if you wanted to try both.

So for example, on the prompt, use model 4o and type 'estimate the bodyfat percentage of this physique, using an average calculated across the 4 images. I am xheight and x weight'

it is more accurate when asked to provide averages across numerous images and poses, and including height and weight for scaling makes a huge difference. Also try to make sure each image has you perpendicular to the camera, no matter what pose you're doing, to keep the lighting as consistent as possible.

Finally, give it someone else to compare to. So find an image of someone who is genuinely 5-7%, or even 10%, then put in the prompt:

'in the first image is someone at x% bodyfat. Based on this reference point, analyse the remaining 4 photos of me and estimate my bodyfat percentage by averaging it across the 4 photos of me and comparing it to the reference photo I uploaded.'

It should then pick up on the differences in leanness and will better understand what 5-7% or whatever bodyfat percentage you provided as reference really is before trying to understand whether you are that lean or not.

You are on the right track, just need to try adjusting the prompts and giving it a genuine reference point first.
 
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For physique assessment on GPT, you will have better results by being more specific with the prompt, providing it with a reference point first (I'll expand on this below), and then having something in the background thats in a constant position so it can scale you appropriately - for example, always having the camera at the same position across the images, or at least at the same relative height on the image, even if it's moved to the other side of the photo.

Model also matters, because some are a lot better at visual interpretation. 4o is usually best for image interpretation/analysis. But 4.1 would follow as second best if you wanted to try both.

So for example, on the prompt, use model 4o and type 'estimate the bodyfat percentage of this physique, using an average calculated across the 4 images. I am xheight and x weight'

it is more accurate when asked to provide averages across numerous images and poses, and including height and weight for scaling makes a huge difference. Also try to make sure each image has you perpendicular to the camera, no matter what pose you're doing, to keep the lighting as consistent as possible.

Finally, give it someone else to compare to. So find an image of someone who is genuinely 5-7%, or even 10%, then put in the prompt:

'in the first image is someone at x% bodyfat. Based on this reference point, analyse the remaining 4 photos of me and estimate my bodyfat percentage by averaging it across the 4 photos of me and comparing it to the reference photo I uploaded.'

It should then pick up on the differences in leanness and will better understand what 5-7% or whatever bodyfat percentage you provided as reference really is before trying to understand whether you are that lean or not.

You are on the right track, just need to try adjusting the prompts and giving it a genuine reference point first.

Wow, it seems you have mastered it! I have no idea man about this gpt stuff, I just saw it elsewhere and thought to give it a go. Thanks for the info!
 
Checking in on you, how's the shoulder doing?

Hey man, thankfully slightly better! I managed to do a push session with lighter loads of course and some slight variation in ROM, still trying to find angles and machines that doesn't make it worse.

I'm continuing the deficit for another 2 weeks, then go 1 week on vacation, after that i'll start ramping up calories and when September comes i'll go officially to my push phase for all the spring/winter.

Thank you for stopping by!
 
One week left of my cut, I’ve dropped mast completely before 8-10 days currently running 300 test 200 tren and 50mg tbol. Had some more mishaps, cops removed my license plates and got a nice fine for illegal parking and I was one week with no car, no gym and a lot of stress. Anyway, my fault..

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Looking good man. Curious why you chose that dosage of Test as opposed to 500mg/week?

Thank you very much!

Mainly because i wanted to reduce total load because something made me feel off and in that moment i couldn't understand because of the various compounds i've used (3 oils, gh, 1 oral, 1 glp). Thankfully i got this sorted and what was screwing me was either the test to mast ratio (500/500) or just the mast at this dosage.

Previous to that i had only used mast to a cruise at 150mg with 250 test and i didn't notice anything. But at 500, or at 500 without lets say 1gr of test, it makes me feel fragile, i have cramps everywhere and all my joints hurt. Also no positive effect on libido.

From the moment i dropped mast and kept 300 test and 200 tren libido went to the friggin roof. Almost too uncofortable for me that i'm used to high libido since natty and currently with a gf. So no more mast for me in the future. I'll keep couple vials in case i need it when using nandrolone or some weird compounds in the future like ment but that's it.

Anyways, with reduced test it was an extra opportunity to drop some water (especially with mast off the stack) and see how lean i've got to.

Also, it worked like a bridge of several weeks on low test because i decided to not go now in a health phase and proceed to a rebound and then continue with my push phase for 5-6 months. I'll do a health phase after the push before i go to a deficit again.

So to sum it up, today is my last day of cut, T-bol and tren. Next week i'll be in vacation and i'll try to not screw things over with overeating and mess the rebound. I'll have 2 maybe 3 sessions and when i return home in a week from now i'll crank the test up, add some nandrolone and do a high carb, medium protein low fat diet for several weeks until i finish the rebound.
 
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